--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic <i...@vt.edu> wrote:
> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <i...@vt.edu> > Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based > on 0.42.x branch) > To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <h...@at.or.at> > Cc: pd-list@iem.at, ""'João Pais'"" <jmmmp...@googlemail.com> > Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:10 AM > > > > Perhaps you'd be interested in my unreleased > tkwidgets library, its > > > in SVN. Basically, I am working on creating > a framework to make it > > > much easier to make GUI objects. Part of that > framework includes > > > things like resizing things with the mouse. > I have that much > > > working but its buggy still. Once that gets > ironed out, I plan on > > > making Pd versions of all the core Tk widgets, > including the Tk > > > canvas. In tkwdigets there is already a > [text] object that works > > > quite nicely, save a few bugs. > > > > I forgot to add, my experience with the iemgui code > has told me that > > they would be very difficult to improve, hence the > tkwidgets lib. > > Unfortunately, if it is not finished/stable, I am not > interested in it > as having to deal with Pd bugs in and of themselves is > demanding enough > on my time. On a flip side Scope~ external already has > similar > functionality which seems to me quite complete so it may be > simply a > matter of implementing that one (obviously it would only > apply to iemgui > objects as vanilla objects have no way of knowing their own > size). Notice that both [cyclone/Scope~] and [flatspace/entry] have a bug: a sudden increase in height/width by about 5-10 pixels when you initially drag to resize. This makes it difficult if not impossible to make minor size changes (especially since there is no Properties dialogue). -Jonathan > > That said, I did spend most of today implementing Sarlo's > feature as > well as fixing buggy Tcl/Tk behavior (namely inability to > show check > marks in the edit menu which is so disheartening it is not > even funny Wouldn't it be easier just to toggle the text for that menu option between "Edit mode" and "Run mode"? (That's what they're called in the manual.) > --I > really think Pd needs to wean itself away from the Tcl/Tk > abomination > even if that means losing a good chunk of its externals > before it can > thrive). How would you go about doing that? > > NB: I left out "drop shadows" part as it seems quite > redundant. I also > changed how the rest of the code behaves/looks to make it > visually > cleaner/more consistent. > > Apart from that latest update also includes edit menu > highlighting (as > 0.43 does to bypass Tcl/Tk buggy junk), improved shortucts > for some of > the calls, bugfix in the window list menu which for some > reason omits > parent window listing, and other minor cosmetic fixes (e.g. > highlighting > color changed to orange as I feel it is much easier on my > eyes). > > If interested, check out the latest snapshot at the usual > place: > > http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56 > > Cheers! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at > mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
