Hi Ico

Ive got it working and have loaded some libraries, Gem, Gridflow, Zexy, pdp
- however PD crashes out when I ctrl-1 to put an object on the canvas.

I've done a backtrace (thanks Mathieu for the tip previously) with the
following results:

Starting program: /usr/local/bin/pd -oss -channels 2 my-bug-test.pd
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
<init> : Avifile RELEASE-0.7.48-100119-21:44-../src/configure
<init> : Available CPU flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr
pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext
fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_api
<init> : 800.00 MHz AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor detected
[New Thread 0xb47e1b70 (LWP 4084)]

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00000011 in ?? ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x00000011 in ?? ()
#1  0x080a94d5 in gobj_displace_withtag (x=0x8206cb8,
    dx=<value optimised out>, dy=0) at g_editor.c:68
#2  canvas_displaceselection (x=0x8206cb8, dx=<value optimised out>, dy=0)
    at g_editor.c:1900
#3  0x080a98a5 in canvas_motion (x=0x8206cb8, xpos=232, ypos=76, fmod=2)
    at g_editor.c:2089
#4  0x080ca4f6 in pd_typedmess (x=0x8206cb8, s=0x8135eb8, argc=3,
    argv=0xbffff08c) at m_class.c:792
#5  0x080ca0dc in pd_typedmess (x=0x814ac60, s=0x8135eb8, argc=3,
    argv=0xbffff08c) at m_class.c:813
#6  0x080cfbaa in binbuf_eval (x=0x8149688, target=<value optimised out>,
    argc=0, argv=0x0) at m_binbuf.c:726
#7  0x080dde5f in socketreceiver_read (x=0x81496a8, fd=6) at s_inter.c:560
#8  0x080dd81a in sys_domicrosleep (microsec=<value optimised out>,
    pollem=<value optimised out>) at s_inter.c:198
#9  0x080de502 in sys_pollgui () at s_inter.c:862
#10 0x080d9321 in m_pollingscheduler () at m_sched.c:490
#11 m_mainloop () at m_sched.c:560
#12 0x080dc8a9 in sys_main (argc=5, argv=0xbffff4e4) at s_main.c:310
#13 0x080e556b in main (argc=5, argv=0xbffff4e4) at s_entry.c:32
(gdb)  quit
A debugging session is active.

Inferior 1 [process 4078] will be killed.

Quit anyway? (y or n) y
socket receive error: Connection reset by peer (104)

Thanks for your help with this! It's a great package to work from
Cheers




On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <i...@vt.edu> wrote:

> > Notice that both [cyclone/Scope~] and [flatspace/entry] have a
> > bug: a sudden increase in height/width by about 5-10 pixels when you
> > initially drag to resize.  This makes it difficult if not
> > impossible to make minor size changes (especially since there is no
> > Properties dialogue).
>
> Good to know. I will look into this when I get there. Currently working on
> accelerating iemgui objects as well as exposing them to sarlo's highlighting
> magic.
>
> > Wouldn't it be easier just to toggle the text for that menu option
> > between "Edit mode" and "Run mode"? (That's what they're called in
> > the manual.)
>
> Sure. There are other options, too, like the one 0.43 and now l2ork version
> of 0.42 uses by changing option's background which works visually relatively
> well (albeit at the expense of consistency). This is however not the issue.
> The issue is finding out that after an hour of debugging the problem is not
> in you or your code but the toolkit you are using and in 2010 for a toolkit
> that has been around for more than a decade that is plainly sad.
>
> > How would you go about doing that?
>
> A: Ugly path: Isolate pd<->gui hooks and port the entire thing to Qt.
>
> B: Better (albeit more time-consuming) path: clean-up code first so that
> all objects can utilize the same gobj_<whatever> calls and then do the A:
> (which at that point won't be nearly as ugly or difficult to maintain).
>
> FWIW, my first ever GUI app was RTMix I did back in 2001 and it was (and
> remains) the ugliest hack ever (basically I tried to learn how to program
> doing that app). Yet, the fact remains even in 2001 qt was way better than
> what Tk is today. Another advantage is avoiding socket bottlenecks as the
> entire thing could be done simply in C. License-wise it should be fine and
> cross-platform-wise miles ahead of Tcl/Tk. Heck, you could even throw in Qt
> for mobile devices for good measure since that is apparently hot item these
> days.
>
> That said, I need some more time working with Pd code before I can
> undertake this. Perhaps more importantly, I just need a generous,
> uninterrupted chunk of time to do this.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ico
>
>
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