--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Mathieu Bouchard <ma...@artengine.ca> wrote:
> From: Mathieu Bouchard <ma...@artengine.ca> > Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancs...@yahoo.com> > Cc: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <h...@eds.org>, pd-list@iem.at > Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 5:46 PM > On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > > A false dichotomy is made between abstractions and > externals. > > Such a false dichotomy is also used on the front page of > http://puredata.info/ : > > « It is easy to extend Pd by writing object > classes ("externals") or > patches ("abstractions"). » As well as in svn, where, for example, list-abs is in the abstractions folder, but there are plenty of libraries in "externals" that are made up only of abstractions. > > I say that even though at the implementation level, > abstractions aren't classes, for the user, it works like a > class. > > > Also there are many externals that don't include > abstractions but are nonetheless compatible with Pd > vanilla. > > What part of the text are you referring to, in > particular ? The last sentence states that list-abs "doesn't require any externals so that it is compatible with vanilla Pd as well". > > BTW, http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/Abstractions talks > about "external patches", but given how "external" is being > overwhelmingly used with a totally different meaning in Pd. > (are newbies supposed to have to guess ?) > > > "word or symbol" creates a false dichotomy. > > what about the occurrence of "selector-word" in the > Messages page ? Yep, that, too. > > > Also: it isn't made clear what is special about list > messages as opposed to, say, blueberry messages, which I > define as starting with the word blueberry followed by zero > or more atoms*. > > mmm, blueberries. :) > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > | Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- > Villeray, Montréal, QC > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list