On Nov 18, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2011-11-18 à 14:20:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >> Obviously, there are objects that are too simple just as there are objects >> that are too complex. > > ok. > >> One thing that I think is a valuable goal is making objects that do their >> thing only using the core atom types as input: bang, float, symbol, list >> (rather than [get blah( etc.) That's not always possible, like with >> [textfile], [comport], [hid], etc.. > > What's not a built-in atom type in there ? [textfile], [comport] and [hid] > only use built-in atom types. If you mean messages that are not anythings, > then you have to know that bangs and lists are not atoms, they're messages > (but list elements are atoms, selectors are symbols, etc). > > But I don't know why you consider this to be valuable, nor why you didn't > talk about it in the last ten years or so, nor why nobody else ever did.
I don't really see a point in continuing this conversation when you consider whatever I write is all just whitewashing to further my secret agenda. I really have no secret agenda, and I'm just trying to communicate. >> So we can take these concepts, like canvas properties and say: how can I do >> everything around canvas properties using only bang, float, symbol, list. > > You made up the previous principle so that you could promote a design that > wouldn't otherwise have an advantage of its own. Why on earth would I do that? .hc >>> Do you also think that [expr] should be avoided, for the sake of making >>> simple objects ? [expr] is a complex thing with complex syntax. >> >> I am fine with expr since I can also use [*] [+] [-] [/], etc. > > That is not an answer to my question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
