>________________________________ > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com> >Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> >Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:03 PM >Subject: arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back! > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA256 > >If someone wants to write patches that work on vanilla anywhere, then there is a point.
_Everybody_ wants to write patches that work on vanilla everywhere. When we can't we try to figure out a course of action, but when we can (without employing wild hacks) we should. > If people are already using Pd-extended or Debian then I honestly don't see the point, arraysize is already there, like many other externals. It's like you wrote above. People _do_ want patches to be as cross-platform as possible. (Not if.) > >For me, apt-get install pd-arraysize is far easier than trying to remember that [expr] trick. And thankfully we can write externals, so we can have choice. :-) If it were a wild hack I'd agree, but it's not. It is a standard operator for [expr] that's been there for ages and is clearly documented. And who is this mythical user that looks to the Debian repositories to figure out how to do something in a programming language? (Hm, I'm not getting audio output, let's open up Synaptic and search 20,000 mostly non-related packages for a solution...) -Jonathan > >.hc > >On 09/27/2012 03:00 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> That feature comes at the expense of compatibility, which >> normally wouldn't be an issue _except_ that Pd >> Vanilla already has the same functionality. So let's encourage >> use of the more compatible way using [expr], which is >> clearly documented and supports the _exact_ same features >> as arraysize. >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >>> To: pd-list@iem.at >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] apt.puredata.info is back! >>> >>> >>> >> >> IMHO, arraysize is very useful because it has a memorable name. "I >> > need to find the size of an array... oh, [arraysize]". >> >> .hc >> >> On 09/27/2012 02:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> >>> Please change the description for the package >> >>> "pd-arraysize" >> >>> >> >>> "This object is deprecated. Use [expr size("array-name")] >> >>> which works out of the box for Pd Extended, Pd Vanilla, >> >>> and Pd-l2ork." >> >>> >> >>> -Jonathan >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoel...@iem.at> >> >>>> To: pd-annou...@iem.at >> >>>> Cc: >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:13 AM >> >>>> Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] apt.puredata.info is back! >> >>>> >> >>> last night hans and me finally setup a replacement machine >> > for >> >>> apt.puredata.info[1], the ultimate source for Pd-extended on >> >>> Debian-based systems (Debian, Ubuntu, Li >> >>> fgmasdfnux/Mint,...)[2]. >> >>> >> >>> it is now hosted on the puredata.info portal/mailinglist >> > server, >> >>> courtesy of iem. >> >>> >> >>> fgmasdf >> >>> IOhannes >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> [1] http://apt.puredata.info/ >> >>> [2] http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pd-announce mailing list >> >>>> pd-annou...@iem.at >> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ > >iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQZKLqAAoJEJ8P5Yc3S76BpMwP/ipER+0Af2ZQ+ruexNeN0KUq >/giclGGz9Gg7yUmKYcrW369ko9UqRXmxQGAY2HHbBUWuWo6lWQ2XD+RKEVkUN9lz >w78S/gXb28FHzyiiRAtibL6Q2pYtyb8VebUW+iiLTtWnkzjbIKO6iPE3lsIsSYzK >x4y6cwTRNYcWM7UO7Ja0DpZie7/sAgkUNYlCMwzfugFZRZ91bW9Xf9rNovxZu9lH >py7mVFJ9iUI2h6Nyzpvdvp95ukfDneQK4JgmbXLWEdYhMGZd2uokeLgsohfP89Sf >e60Pv1s9YuiarA1MBBudm15egWHLbhLVU1vb3VH4uOpZXh3Uf5u3z/luo73T+udx >RzInWh0Su0WSmnWYU4yABo+F0eFAGNDH+AxdEdtxsKm0X3AP7RFZaqUmdut96NE9 >NMMd7UKytG8zKs+a6hCOLqqL/DrBxpYmwrxAhPNRd8hMA+WmWxISyhrBoHsgOjb+ >oHIccb6xUVmg5wafyuQMqTaPtTtDt2y3DCyb4gcOGEoHTXJcztA7nd2RYGnf0eZ5 >0jfix5ykyP/Wau4dlyNT4J569BgS0XQkZw0RlP2mIAJose6pGpDtKpwvzSEZrleE >i6ZvCbC3NGzfY4HFhS6XcXzXWDTmHFLb17gvQNyzjQwKTgvzxJ58YEswUTM5LXVD >Q8VO11kW70gDLmPU/GnL >=uAcd >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list