On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Jamie Bullock <ja...@jamiebullock.com> wrote:
> > On 31 Jul 2013, at 16:11, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: >> >>>>> At the very least, I think "Connect" is a bit confusing. It implies that >>>>> there can be an unconnected state when the main purpose of the dialog is >>>>> managing which things are connected. Maybe "Apply Settings", "Update >>>>> Connection Settings", or even "Update", etc is better. >>>> >>>> Ok. I think "Update" or "Update Connection Settings" is probably best. >>> >>> When would a user want to change a setting but not "apply"? Surely you want >>> the actual settings in the backend to always reflect the current state of >>> the preferences dialog and vice versa. >>> >>> best, >>> >>> Jamie >> >> I think you misunderstand me. Of course the changes should be applied, I'm >> just saying I thought the "Connect" button label was a little confusing. >> "Apply" would work as well in this case, but I think something like "Update >> Connection Settings" etc is more verbose, but also more clear. >> >> What I meant by not having an apply button a few posts ago, was that in most >> Mac apps you don't have a 2 step process to change settings aka change then >> apply. When you change a setting that's it, it's both changed and updated at >> the same time. I do agree with Jonathan that, in this case, it makes sense >> to have a 2 step process. I was mainly pointing out I thought the labeling >> could be more clear. > > Actually, I don't think I expressed myself very well as I was arguing the > opposite. I think the settings should take effect immediately and there > shouldn't be an "apply" or "connect" or anything button — you just change a > setting and that's it — done! > > Hence my question about when you would want to "not apply" the settings. > > I can't find any other application on my Mac that has an "apply" button in > the audio prefs dialog, and FWIW, in Integra Live we managed to create an > audio prefs without an apply step, based on Pd using IOhannes' > [mediasettings] externals, so it's definitely possible. Ah ok. Then yeah, we both agree. The issue then is really about being cross platform. Windows and Linux use the change/apply metaphor, so I figured it probably doesn't make sense to ask Jonathan to code a separate Mac-only dialog. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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