>> Disclaimer: I am aware that GEM does not run on 64 bit, this is a whole new discussion we should start and after new pd release we should figure out how to go forward with this. as dan mentioned avfoundation osx framework plugin is 20% done. i have compiled a couple days ago and it DOES load a film but there is some kind of memory leak which crashes pd....
again.... we should start a separate list thread on this. maybe on gem-dev? >> Working on Pd the last couple weeks has been rewarding in providing usability improvements but, at this point, it feels like whack a mole & burn out. 5 serious gold stars and a major round of applause... im sure there is no thanking enough on the great work... m On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Derek Holzer via Pd-list < pd-list@lists.iem.at> wrote: > Chiming in here as well. At least one factor instigating this current > thread was me asking in the Facebook group if there is a simple, canonical > way of installing GEM via deken. > > Of note: every reply apart from Alexandre's told me I should install > Extended, or install Purr Data, or copy the lib binaries from those into my > course material, or use a live Linux distro, or use a preinstalled RasPi, > or do every other crazy/complicated thing *besides* use deken. This is how > the user community perceives the situation at this moment. > > Disclaimer: I am aware that GEM does not run on 64 bit, and I could not > use Extended because I required the [metro] object from Pd >= 0.45 > > I just did a one day workshop last weekend, and after giving the > participants pre-flight instructions on how to install GEM that worked fine > for me, 10 out of 12 could not create the GEM objects. > > If it's only a 5 hour workshop and you spend more than an hour dealing > with each participant's individual system to install and config while the > others sit around and wait, what this tells me is that the deken system > might not be ready for prime time yet. > > Alexandre's document is great, but new users will not read 14 pages to > install libs they have never used before. I miss Extended for this > ease-of-use terribly, and I wonder how after two decades of Pd these issues > still haven't been addressed completely in a systematic way which allows > people to simply install and go (as Extended did once upon a time). > > I guess it's important to debate whether it's "correct" to allow Pd to > create directories etc etc, but the real crash test should still be whether > a classroom full of undergrad art students on mixed platforms, and who > don't just-so-happen-to-have a background in CompSci as well, can get > things up and running without stress. > > Best Sunday wishes to all. > Derek > > -- > derek holzer > noise.art.technology > http://macumbista.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/li > stinfo/pd-list > -- ____________________ m.e.grimm, m.f.a, ed.m. syracuse u., tc3 megrimm.net ____________________
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