looks like you can „ask apple“ only if you are "members of the Apple Developer Program or Apple Developer Enterprise Program“ furthermore topics are set to apples latest + shiniest https://developer.apple.com/events/ask-apple/questions-and-answers/ <https://developer.apple.com/events/ask-apple/questions-and-answers/>
your proposed question is great: I would like to know how an open source project which relies on freely-shared plugins is supposed to exist on a platform that is making it harder on accessibility. just apple doesn´t seem to provide a slot to ask it - they might have their reasons… i could try to wrestle my institution into paying for a dev account, which i could open up to people like lucas. another possibility would be a donated dev account - 100$ per year is like 2 beers per month. drink less, have more code :-) would that even be allowed by apple? best hans > Am 11.10.2022 um 23:37 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>: > > Looks like we could “Ask Apple”… > > https://developer.apple.com/events/ask-apple/ > <https://developer.apple.com/events/ask-apple/> > > I would like to know how an open source project which relies on freely-shared > plugins is supposed to exist on a platform that is making it harder on > accessibility. > > I have had a developer account for many years but that doesn’t mean I like > jumping through these hoops after spending too long figuring them out. It > would be nicer if you, as a user, could simply tell the system: “Pd can load > whatever dynamic libs.” > > It’s the same situation for other environments such as Max. > > enohp ym morf tnes > ----------- > Dan Wilcox > danomatika.com > robotcowboy.com > > >> On Oct 11, 2022, at 8:01 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> You already have you answer: no code signing or notarization means users >> get the security popup when the dylibs are loaded but they just have to >> select open as far as I know. Gatekeeper asks them once, then the system >> remembers the selection. I believe it may also require changing a privacy >> setting in System Preferences to allow it. >> >> I already added the "Disable library validation" entitlement back for the >> first Pd release for 10.15 which introduced the stronger security settings. >> >> Also, I think calling them "thieves" is misleading. If you don't want to use >> the platform or the services which are provided with the developer account, >> don't. No one is forcing you. Please don't contribute to FUD. >> >> You could simply provide the code and perhaps the make files to automate the >> process, then convince an institution to pay for the developer account >> license. I included this as one of my expenses for my last funded iOS >> project... :) >> >>> On Oct 11, 2022, at 7:12 PM, Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com >>> <mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> @ Dan >>> >>> Thanks for sharing this. I'll be digging about ` you need an Apple >>> Developer account (and Apple ID to sign up for one)`. If there's no >>> workaround about the us$100 i'll be giving up notarizing builds. Do you >>> know of a way to not send money to the thieves (if i'm not mistaken) ? >>> >>> or to put it in another way: >>> >>> if I don't codesign/notarize the builds: is just that users have an "open >>> anyway" dialog? or is it a total "show stopper" that quits Pd? >>> >>> Which way should I go without the $100 ? >> >> -------- >> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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