To echo Christof, each object has a parallel worker thread as the file I/O 
could block Pd's audio thread. It takes time to read the beginning of the file 
(or  from the start point) before it can be played back.

IMO the warning / concern in the help file is really from a time of *much* 
slower media where the file I/O would take a lot longer, especially if a 
spinning hard drive has to access multiple files in multiple physical 
locations. Nowadays, speed and (pre-)caching make access times so much faster 
we don't necessarily think about it except for very large files we need to be 
able to randomly access.

As Christof says, fine tuning the reader buffer size could be thought of as 
fine tuning the audio buffer length, ie. a 64 block size is faster but has less 
space/time if your patch does some really CPU intensive stuff. If you don't 
need super responsively, you can increase the block size. I have never 
personally needed to use anything but the default readsf~ buffer size.

> On Mar 4, 2024, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 06:23:16 +0100
> From: Christof Ressi <i...@christofressi.com <mailto:i...@christofressi.com>>
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] help making sense of [readsf~]
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> Hi,
> 
>> making it seem it would load the file into an internal memory and not 
>> just read directly from the disk
> The help file says "soundfile playback from disk"...
> 
> Here's how the object works:
> 
> A worker thread is reading data from the given file and fills a buffer. 
> If the buffer is full, it waits until there is space. The thread starts 
> to do its job right after the [open( message.
> 
> Once we send the [start( message, the perform method simply tries to 
> read a block of samples from the buffer and copy it to the outlets. If 
> there is not enough data in the buffer, the method blocks - which is 
> something we definitely want to avoid! This is exactly the reason why we 
> need to wait a little bit between the [open( message and the [start( 
> message; otherwise the perform routine might have to wait for the 
> buffer, causing a dropout.
> 
> The second argument for [readsf~] is the size of the buffer. The default 
> value seems to be 262144 bytes (per channel). In single-precision Pd 
> that corresponds to 65536 samples, which should be more than enough. I 
> think this value comes from the times where everybody had slow HDDs with 
> unpredictable seek times; for modern SSDs it can be much smaller, but we 
> probably don't care about a few kilobytes.
> 
> (BTW, I have no idea why the help patch uses a buffer size of 1 MB...)

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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
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