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Mark,
Permission granted. I'm leaving the eMail trail intact on this to keep it in context for you.


In regard to RTFM, you'll want to print out the Acrobat JavaScript Guide as well. It's got a lot of the CTRL-key and Option-key stuff in it that will make life a <little> less frustrating. But as Robert and Max pointed out, Acro6 is <not> a forms-design platform that you'll want to use on a daily basis.


Jim Plante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Jan 23, 2004, at 7:28 AM, Lauterbach.Mark wrote:



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Good morning, Jim

You're right, I have never even opened the FM for Acrobat except for the
JS Object Specification (which I even printed out!)


Thanks very much for this suggestion.  I don't know if we're going to
end up using Acrobat as our artwork platform, but I will definitely
mention the possibilities to the powers that be.  With your permission,
I'd like to add your email to my report.

Mark

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On Jan 22, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Lauterbach.Mark wrote:



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Hi, Jim

I'm curious - how time intensive is it to use Acrobat 6 as the artwork

software for your forms?  I've used apps like Form Flow and that make
it pretty easy to draw boxes, lines, etc.  I haven't used Acrobat 6
yet but
I know that Acrobat 5 doesn't seem to let me "add" text that isn't
there
- just modify existing static text.

Aha! You didn't RTFM! Select the text touch-up tool in Acro5 or 6. Hold down the option key, and click anywhere on the form. You should get a cursor, and be able to type text. Now, that text will be in the default font, which is usually too big, too ugly, or something else you don't want. Select it, hold down the CTRL (not the command key) and click on the text. A popup menu will allow you to select "Properties", and this will get you a font dialog which will let you select the face and size text you want. But guess what: Your odds of having it precisely placed are pretty low. So select the Touch-up Object tool, click on the new text, and drag it where you want it. (Don't feel badly, though. Adobe hides this stuff from you.)

Need a logo? Make a button a little bigger than you need, no borders,
no fill, icon only. Browse for the JPEG of the logo, which will serve
as the button's icon, click on it, and you're done. Want to include a
photo, like for a personnel form? Make a button about the size you
want. Set a mouseup action to run a javascript. Enter
"event.target.buttonImportIcon()" without the quotes as the javascript.
When this button is clicked, it pops up a file menu to allow the form
user to select from a wide range of graphics file types, including JPG
and PNG, etc.. Select the file type as JPG, navigate to the photo,
click on it, and presto! it appears on your form, properly scaled.

Need a special area of a form that's gonna be a PITA? Scan it off the
paper form, use PS Elements or GraphicConverter to select the area you
want to duplicate, do a Trim Selection in GC, and save the resulting
portion of your scan as a JPG. Open your form in Acrobat, make a button
the size of the scan, and set that JPG you just made as the button's
icon. You can overlay text fields on top of it if you set the button to
do nothing when clicked.

 From the other replies on this topic, it doesn't appear that Acro6 is
any more trouble than the more formal packages.

I'm looking into artwork solutions for our forms department and, to be

honest, never even considered "drawing" with Acrobat.  Do you have
experience with this?
If your form involves tables, there's not much drawing to do. Just make
the fields adjoin or overlap each other at their end points, so you
have a chain of cells like in a table; just do the first row. Set the
appearance of each of the fields to a thin border and white background.
In Acro 6 Pro, all you have to do now is select all those cells,
control-click on them, and select "Duplicate Multiple Copies" (or
something like that) from the popup menu. Tell it how many rows of
those cells you need, how far apart you want them, and you're done with
the table. All of the cells are named automatically by the naming
convention. Acro 6 does have a small number of drawing tools, but don't
look for Bezier curves or text on a path or anything like that. You
need Illustrator for that stuff anyway.

These things will work for most simple forms, like order forms or
invoices. For really complex stuff, I'd use something like Illustrator.
Draw the form in Illustrator, and save it as a PDF. Set Illustrator as
the graphic editor in Acrobat. Now open the form in Acrobat, and place
your fields and JavaScripts. If you find that you need to edit
something you did in illustrator, you can go back and do it.

Have fun,
Jim


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