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Thank you for all your research, saves me a lot of time. As I mentioned in
my original post, the problem seems to be at its worst with PageMaker 7
documents. In any event I am going to make some calls, talk to some people
and, I hope, get to the bottom of the "Blue Line" problem. I promise I will
report back when I find out what the story is.

Thanks again,

Dan

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I made a multi-layered PSD file: three layers of objects, two layers of
text. I converted the PSD to PDF.

The three objects become one object: the two text layers could be clicked
and moved. No extra "blue" lines were noted.

Rich

P.S. Yes, I make ads in InDesign. I never did get around to installing Quark
5, and I use Quark 6 just to test other people's files and my theories.

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You can make ads in In Design??  Jusskiddin'.  Very eloquently put.  I
would've said all that, but my fingers get tired typing so much.  And I'm
lazy.

It is frustrating trying to figure out why something is as it is with
Acrobat.  That's especially true with images/objects.  Is it possible that
when the original .eps or .tif or whatever is created it's not flattened
into a "background" layer?  Would that create the extra empty objects?  Dov?
Are you out there?

~James
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There may be some confusion, here, over terminology.

I'm not an engineeer, but a fairly accomplished user. So there may be a more
technical explanation than I am able to provide.

There are layers, and then again, there are layers. And both are different
animules. Let's say you are making an ad in InDesign. You "do not" create
layers for your work. In other words, all your elements are on the base
layer.

However, you have a full-page background image. On top of the background,
you've placed several images, some of which overlap. Additionally, you have
created some type in an arc shape (two different elements) which you have
placed in the file. You also have several text containers, and codes for
each of the images. So in essence, you have layered each of your elements on
one single "layer". Confused? I hope so...I'm trying hard to cause
information overload.

When the PDF is made, PDF creates objects for each of the elements. Many of
the elements will be combined into one object (such as the codes, or the
arc-shaped type. If you click on a photo, you may end up highlighting an
object which has several small elements ranging over the whole page. Another
click, and you discover that two images eloped and were married before being
placed in the original file. Finally, you may find an image blended into the
background (via Photoshop).

Then there are some blue rectangles that simply seem to have no purpose.
But, at some point, they were used in the creation of the PDF. If they have
no content, it shouldn't hurt to delete them.

What I do, is hold down the control key (Windows)/command key (Mac), then
use the touch-up object tool until I am able to select the image I am trying
to modify.

Hope this helps.

Rich


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