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They were embeddable, but wasn't the default setting for one or more of the job options set "not to embed?" And how could one embed the fonts with the PDFWriter? I also remember spending quite a bit of time trying to help a chap who had both Acrobat 4 and the headless Distiller in Pagemaker installed on his system. He had nothing but problems with fonts (Windows). I think it had something to do with the Adobe font list. At the time I was doing most of my work on the Mac, and yes, I remember those problems, too. But, there were big-time technical issues when Adobe switched from Helvetica/Times to Arial/Times New Roman. Rich -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rich Sprague Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Word Docs to PDFs The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ PS: There was no "problem" with Acrobat 4 and "system fonts" if what you mean by "system fonts" are the "base 13 + Dingbats." There has always been a big problem with Macintoshes that had both the Adobe Times, Helvetica, Courier, Symbol, and Zapf Dingbats Type 1 fonts installed along with the conflicting Apple-supplied TrueType fonts of the exact same names (but obviously not the exact same font). - Dov At 3/30/2004 07:19 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote: >Beginning with Acrobat 4, all fonts that permitted embedding (i.e., not >TrueType/OpenType with fsType set for "no embedding") were embeddable >including the legendary "base 13 + Dingbats." > >A PDF file that doesn't have the fonts it references embedded is a >disaster-in-waiting! > > - Dov > > > >At 3/30/2004 07:02 AM, Rich Sprague wrote: > >>Is it my foggy memory, or isn't this advice a major shift in theory >>from version 4? As I recall, at the time the theory was not to embed >>the system fonts in order to make a PDF smaller. >> >>I agree with both Dov and Leonard that one should always embed the >>fonts (which is the default in AB 5 and 6). But there were, and are, >>problems with Acrobat 4 and the system fonts. >> >>As I stated in my other post, the best bet is to upgrade AB and leave >>the font problems in the past. >> >>Rich >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs >>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:40 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Word Docs to PDFs >> >> >>At 3/29/2004 12:30 PM, Rich Sprague wrote: >>>A. System fonts (Times New Roman and Arial) do not need to be embedded. >> >>I disagree vehemently. Current versions of Acrobat make no assumptions >>about font availability on the receiving end. If you don't embed a >>font and you use any characters other than a subset of Western Latin >>characters, the Distiller will indeed attempt to embed whatever font >>you are using and if it fails and the exact same font isn't on the >>recipient's system, you are risking their inability to read what you >>produced. By the way, although the Times New Roman, Arial, and Courier >>New fonts under Windows have over 1400 distinct character definitions, >>the Macintosh versions contain less than 300 such definitions, for example! >> >>Best rule is to always embed fonts regardless of how "common" >>you think the font happens to be! No "ifs", "ands", or "buts" >>about it! >> >> - Dov > > >To change your subscription: >http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html
