Sorry Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: Re[10]: electra studio flash/ring flash
> I think we are mixing emails. Brad did ask about playing with studio > lighting. Knowing that he already had 1 AF360, that is why I said > what I did. > > In your case, I have already recommended the Alien Bees for real > studio flashes. Otherwise, use any flashes that you have with > Lumiquest softboxes on them. > > The problem of modeling lights is a very real one IMO. When shooting > film, you really can't see the results of your work until it is too > late. I went from using AF360's to Alien Bees for two reasons. One > was the modeling light problem and the other was lack of flash power. > Shoot the 67, I need even more DOF than on 35 and was really > struggling with enough power out of the AF360's. > > I am happy with the Bees and the price. > > > Bruce > > > > Saturday, December 7, 2002, 2:11:39 PM, you wrote: > > FK> Hi Bruce, actually my name's Feroze :) > > FK> 2 AF360's would cost me 4 times what > FK> a decent set of lights and accessories would, plus > FK> I would be without modelling lights. One of my requiremnets > FK> is that they run relatively cool so "hotlights" would be a no-no. > > FK> How do you use your flashes then, on a bracket? > > FK> feroze > > > FK> ----- Original Message ----- > FK> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FK> To: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FK> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:18 PM > FK> Subject: Re[8]: electra studio flash/ring flash > > > >> Brad, > >> > >> Well, there's cheap as in inexpensive and cheap as in low quality. The > >> cheapest way to do it is buy another AF360FGZ (I've done this) and two > >> Lumiquest softboxes. Then start practicing with a 2 light setup. > >> > >> You can always use hotlights. You'll need a couple of reflectors > >> (Home Depot) and then some strong spotlights. Photofloods are > >> relatively cheap, but don't last very long (hours) and their color > >> temperature changes as they burn out. Quartz last much longer and > >> their color temperature is much more steady. The reason they are > >> called "hot lights" is because they are very hot. Both in adjusting > >> them and if you are the subject. Typical wattages are 250-500. The > >> big advantage is that you can see exactly the effect of the light > >> (shadows). If you are using color film, you do have to deal with > >> color temperature (filtering). There are a few films already balanced > >> for Tungsten. > >> > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturday, December 7, 2002, 3:14:51 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> BD> Hey, > >> > >> BD> I'd love to try a studio setup. How much does *cheap* equipment cost? > FK> Or > >> BD> rentals? It would be fun to do some work with friends and family and > FK> a bit > >> BD> of still life, providing the cost isn't prohibitive. > >> > >> BD> Brad > >> BD> ----- Original Message ----- > >> BD> From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> BD> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> BD> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:07 AM > >> BD> Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > >> > >> > >> >> Well this is the problem, I need to buy > >> >> studio lights. I like the idea of continuous > >> >> lights. It takes me ages to set up a shot > >> >> and if I could have the lights on most of the time > >> >> the composition would be so much easier. > >> >> So what time I save in the shoot is to mine > >> >> and the clients advantage > >> >> > >> >> Feroze > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:56 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: Feroze Kistan > >> >> > Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Hi Rob, > >> >> > > So what is the generally accepted opinion? > >> >> > > In a studio setup, for my situtation, 90% > >> >> > > pack shots, and I'm just learning to shoot slides, > >> >> > > will a hand held meter be more accurate than > >> >> > > using the cameras meter? > >> >> > > >> >> > Are yoy planning on shooting with studio strobes, or continuous > >> >> > light? > >> >> > If you are shooting with continuous light, then the in camera > >> >> > meter will be as accurate as anything. > >> >> > If you are shooting with studio strobe, then it depends on how > >> >> > much of the work you want to do. If you are going to do the > >> >> > flash calculations yourself, using guide numbers and flash to > >> >> > subject distances, then that will be as acurate as the meter, > >> >> > presuming you can get an accurate estimate of your studio unit's > >> >> > output (hint: you'll need a flash meter). > >> >> > I wouldn't want to do it this way. I like knowing that the > >> >> > exposures will be close to correct. > >> >> > > >> >> > William Robb > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> > >