Sorry Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: Re[10]: electra studio flash/ring flash


> I think we are mixing emails.  Brad did ask about playing with studio
> lighting.  Knowing that he already had 1 AF360, that is why I said
> what I did.
>
> In your case, I have already recommended the Alien Bees for real
> studio flashes.  Otherwise, use any flashes that you have with
> Lumiquest softboxes on them.
>
> The problem of modeling lights is a very real one IMO.  When shooting
> film, you really can't see the results of your work until it is too
> late.  I went from using AF360's to Alien Bees for two reasons.  One
> was the modeling light problem and the other was lack of flash power.
> Shoot the 67, I need even more DOF than on 35 and was really
> struggling with enough power out of the AF360's.
>
> I am happy with the Bees and the price.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> Saturday, December 7, 2002, 2:11:39 PM, you wrote:
>
> FK> Hi Bruce, actually my name's Feroze :)
>
> FK> 2 AF360's would cost me 4 times what
> FK> a decent set of lights and accessories would, plus
> FK> I would be without modelling lights. One of my requiremnets
> FK> is that they run relatively cool so "hotlights" would be a no-no.
>
> FK> How do you use your flashes then, on a bracket?
>
> FK> feroze
>
>
> FK> ----- Original Message -----
> FK> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> FK> To: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> FK> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:18 PM
> FK> Subject: Re[8]: electra studio flash/ring flash
>
>
> >> Brad,
> >>
> >> Well, there's cheap as in inexpensive and cheap as in low quality. The
> >> cheapest way to do it is buy another AF360FGZ (I've done this) and two
> >> Lumiquest softboxes.  Then start practicing with a 2 light setup.
> >>
> >> You can always use hotlights.  You'll need a couple of reflectors
> >> (Home Depot) and then some strong spotlights.  Photofloods are
> >> relatively cheap, but don't last very long (hours) and their color
> >> temperature changes as they burn out.  Quartz last much longer and
> >> their color temperature is much more steady.  The reason they are
> >> called "hot lights" is because they are very hot.  Both in adjusting
> >> them and if you are the subject.  Typical wattages are 250-500.  The
> >> big advantage is that you can see exactly the effect of the light
> >> (shadows).  If you are using color film, you do have to deal with
> >> color temperature (filtering).  There are a few films already balanced
> >> for Tungsten.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Saturday, December 7, 2002, 3:14:51 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> BD> Hey,
> >>
> >> BD> I'd love to try a studio setup.  How much does *cheap* equipment
cost?
> FK> Or
> >> BD> rentals?  It would be fun to do some work with friends and family
and
> FK> a bit
> >> BD> of still life, providing the cost isn't prohibitive.
> >>
> >> BD> Brad
> >> BD> ----- Original Message -----
> >> BD> From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> BD> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> BD> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:07 AM
> >> BD> Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash
> >>
> >>
> >> >> Well this is the problem, I need to buy
> >> >> studio lights. I like the idea of continuous
> >> >> lights. It takes me ages to set up a shot
> >> >> and if I could have the lights on most of the time
> >> >> the composition would be so much easier.
> >> >> So what time I save in the shoot is to mine
> >> >> and the clients advantage
> >> >>
> >> >> Feroze
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:56 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: Feroze Kistan
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Hi Rob,
> >> >> > > So what is the generally accepted opinion?
> >> >> > > In a studio setup, for my situtation, 90%
> >> >> > > pack shots, and I'm just learning to shoot slides,
> >> >> > > will a hand held meter be more accurate than
> >> >> > > using the cameras meter?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Are yoy planning on shooting with studio strobes, or continuous
> >> >> > light?
> >> >> > If you are shooting with continuous light, then the in camera
> >> >> > meter will be as accurate as anything.
> >> >> > If you are shooting with studio strobe, then it depends on how
> >> >> > much of the work you want to do. If you are going to do the
> >> >> > flash calculations yourself, using guide numbers and flash to
> >> >> > subject distances, then that will be as acurate as the meter,
> >> >> > presuming you can get an accurate estimate of your studio unit's
> >> >> > output (hint: you'll need a flash meter).
> >> >> > I wouldn't want to do it this way. I like knowing that the
> >> >> > exposures will be close to correct.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > William Robb
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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