Hi,
Do you think PZ1p is much better than PZ1? I has the latter and sometimes wonder
whether to look for another the same body ( I like ergonomics of PZ1 very much) or
spend extra money for "p" version.Angle of built-in flash is not important for me
3pictures per 1s. I take mostly slides and own some K and M lenses apart from A50/1.7
and Tamron SP 90/2.8 manual version so for me metering is important and build quality.
Alek
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>Mike,
>
>In terms of using this group for Market Research, we would be more of an
>Expert Panel than a typical focus group. Sometimes consumer products
>companies recruit groups of 8-10 people for a 2 hour discussion of some
>issues. Product management/marketing folks sit behind the one way mirror and
>watch the discussion. This list would not be an average group of users, but
>a special group of very experienced, knowledgeable product users. Sometimes
>consumer products companies will recruit these kinds of groups.
>
>Your hypothetical questions/conclusions regarding too many of us liking old,
>manual focus cameras and lenses seems incorrect to me. Cameras are a
>lifetime purchase for most consumers, maybe twice or three times a lifetime,
>but not more often. People bought a 'good' 35mm camera, and then treated it
>carefully.
>
>Pentax is in a difficult business. In the last 40 years, it has gone from
>producing high quality instruments to quality cameras for the mass market
>(think ME, ME Super), to Point-n-shoot stuff for Walmart or Boots the
>Chemist. The high end of this business is full of folks who expect top
>quality optical and mechanical products as the minimum. Old Spotmatic or
>Super Program or LX users if you will. Meanwhile, the profits on new sales
>are being made on the large, mass market cheap zoom cameras.
>
>How to revive the high end business?... it's not easy. Look at what we like.
> High quality optics with a quality feel when handling. Oh, and the task is
>complicated by the fact that you have 30 years of old lenses exported to the
>world when the Yen was cheap. These old, high quality lenses are available
>at a significant discount to their cost to reproduce today.
>
>Much the same is true for camera bodies. Japan has responded to the cost
>pressures by going from 100's of parts in a K1000 to 10's of parts in a
>point-n-shoot zoom. And we yearn for the good old cameras...
>
>If I put on my Marketing/Product Manager hat, I'd say this. If you want to
>sell some more high end Pentax camera gear, you've got to give the consumer
>something they haven't got now. Autofocus is a potential benefit/feature
>which will get some of these folks to switch. (But don't introduce a fine
>camera like the PZ-1 combined with a poor optical/mechanical 28-80 power
>zoom!) Image stabilization lenses and digital are two more potential hooks
>to draw the customer in. Medium format is another.
>
>So yes, I do like old gear but I could be made to switch. Just remember, we
>are a price conscious group of users. If you want me to buy something new,
>you've got to give me the kind of price/performance I can get in the used
>market.
>
>...and I do own 2 limited lenses, a PZ-1 and PZ-p, and 4-5 more FA lenses.
>
>Regards, Bob S.
>
>In a message dated 12/18/02 9:22:55 AM Central Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> This is pretty much what I was wondering about when I wrote the original
>> "Hypothetical Question." People here wonder whether Pentax monitors this
>> list (they do), and whether they listen to our advice when advising Japan
>> about product development...I don't know whether they do that or not, but I
>> have to wonder if it would be productive if they did.
>>
>> I know that one Pentax person has told me privately that despite all the
>> gushing and lauding of the LX on this list, even diehards weren't buying
>new
>> LX's at the end of its lifespan. Most were buying used, or were using LXen
>> purchased many years previously.
>>
>
