Another puerile epistle from: "Hans Imglueck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Bob, > > how often should I say: It clear that Saddam is a mass murderer. > So he deserves all the hate. But why have the other unquilty people > to die? Are you saying that it is the desire of the coalition that "unquilty[sic]" people die? Are you aware that because of great expense on the part of the US that loss of life on all sides is orders of magnitude less than would otherwise be expected? > You cannot sum it up the way: Saddam has killed 1000000, 100,000 is an extremely low estimate. > so it is legal to kill 1000 additional to remove him. Lifes cannot > be added. You can also not say: We have to save the Iraqian, > because Saddam will kill more. How will you know this for sure? Well, same argument used by the antiwar crowd prior to and through the beginning of WWII. There is only one way to know for sure now, isn't there? Just wait and let Hussein either kill thousands more... or not. Of course this has continually been Hussein's method of maintaining control of his populace since his assumption of power, but hey, who knows? Maybe he changed! Maybe we got Hitler all wrong! Perhaps Stalin was really a choir boy! We have not always been right. Prior to WWII, a Brit named Chamberlain (Do you know who he was, Hans?) believed he could arrive at an agreement with Evil. It wasn't very many more months before the bombing of Briton began. At the beginning of WWII in 1939, The French held back with a decision to give Hitler more time. By the time they realized their error it was too late to stop your country from marching into Paris. We have not always been right either. While France was already under occupation and Briton was already under attack, we held back from coming to the aid of Europe. Because of the opposition of the Left and the pacifists in this country, we didn't enter the war until our own nose had been bloodied. Churchill described us by saying (roughly) that the US could always be counted on to do the right thing - after trying everything else first! We are grateful that Briton forgave us for being late, even though surely it cost them many lives. At the end of the war, US president Truman, more than any other man, was responsible for giving Poland, Hungary and much of Eastern Europe to Stalin. God forgive us, millions died and millions were plunged into a darkness where there would be no liberty for 50 or so years. Well, this time we decided not give "Hungary to Hitler" in order to obtain "...peace in our time." We (the coalition) kicked Hussein's butt out of Kuwait, but forgive us, we offered peace to Evil in exchange for certain specific demands. Well, even when given TWELVE years, Hussein managed to ignore and or violate EVERY point and demand to which he signed. During this time hundreds of thousands more were purged and tortured. The blood of all these people are now on our hands. No more! Now I know that you don't like this. We are all aware that Hussein's government owes France, Belgium, Germany and Russia tens of billions of dollars. We are all aware that France and Germany are vying to be the leader of the European Union, and that rather than earn the position by raising themselves up, they see bringing others (US & Briton) down as a shortcut to this power. Russia sees it's wealth and power as coming from being the arms dealer to this area of the world (Those aren't French, German or US weapons used there). You see the world presented to you through this filter and can't imagine that you are wrong. Even if you did, how would you survive the ostracism you would surely receive from your associates? > > My faith tells something different and this might be interesting for all who are believing in Jesus Christ. Read Matthew (Mt) 13,24-30! > This is the way God is doing. I suggest that "...if you do not have a sword, that you go out and sell your cloak and buy one." I also tell you that "...the state does not wield the sword for nothing." Further I urge you to search the scriptures to discover the manner in which God deals with _nations_. I leave it as an exercise to you to find the references. Bob... -------------------------------------------- "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther
