Oh yes, Frank. There is a lot of that going on. The Isuzu PUP and the Chevy S-10 pickup were both built on the same assembly line in California. Different drive trains and minor trim but essensially the same vehicle. The Ford Explorer and the Mazda 4x4 were build an the same assembly line in Flat Rock, Mi. The Malibu was a Toyota also made in California. All the Geo were rebadged whatevers. If you looked closely at the mini vans you had to noticed that despite there being 20 or so of them on the market there really were only 2 or 3 different bodies involved.

A lot of Japanese Companies are trading partners with US companies. It is getting very hard to tell who makes what where. Look at digital cameras, it is no coincidence that many of them resemble others of different brands. They are actually the same cameras with different trim, features, and name tags.

As Lee Iakoca(sp?) said, "You should buy Korean built American cars, and not those American built Japanese cars". I know that is not how he worded it but that is eactly what he was saying (Dodge Colt v. Honda Accord). We live in a global market run by ivy league bean counters, that is a simple fact of life these days.


frank theriault wrote:
Maybe GM didn't own Isuzu, but wasn't there a marketing agreement between the two, maybe 10 years back? I can't remember, but I'm sure that GM rebadged some Isuzu product for US sales. Much like they rebadged Toyota Corollas as Novas (that wasn't a flop, was it?).

Damn, what was it? They weren't really marketed as a GM car (sort of like a Japanese Saturn, they had their own "division"). Not Geo. Damn, this is going to piss me off. If I think of it later, I'll Google GM/Isuzu, I'm sure something will come up.

I recall it was around the time that Isuzu sold something with a "suspension tuned by Lotus" badge on it - I think GM may have had shares of Lotus too? Or not, I don't know.

cheers,
frank



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From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hummm....? The guys working at Hydromatic in Ypsilanti might argue about GM not building automatic transmissions with you, Paul.

However, I will note that unless the changed the laws over in Japan GM does not own Isuzu, the Japanese government does not (or at least did not) allow foreign control of Japanese Companies.



Paul Stenquist wrote:

Uh, Bill, I hate to burst your bubble, but Isuzu isn't an American car,
and it isn't a GM car. GM doesn't build transmissions. They buy them
from suppliers, same as Isuzu. It might be the same trans that GM uses,
but it's not their part.


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