Hello Dario,

I would also be interested in the quality in regards to being printed
on both an inkjet and a digital lab (Agfa, Fuji, Noritsu).  I have
found in my own digital endeavors, that many times, the printed output
is better or worse than what I view on screen.

Thanks,

Bruce


Monday, October 13, 2003, 12:29:21 PM, you wrote:

DB2> I forgot to say that next Thursday I'll get an *ist D to test by myself, so
DB2> eventually I'll have the final response to my stomachache.

DB2> Dario

DB2> ----- Original Message -----
DB2> From: "Dario Bonazza 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DB2> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DB2> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:16 PM
DB2> Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!


>> Dear Alex,
>>
>> Thanks for the link, but the pictures fully confirm my impressions.
>>
>> Commenting on IMGP1412 (f/11) and IMGP1418 (f/4.5), the only two I
>> downloaded at full resolution for not being too heavy on your DSL line:
>>
>> Still you cannot tell for sure where the camera was focused (judging by
>> what's in focus and what's out). You should see green leaves at a certain
>> distance (focused distance) as one-by-one, not always as a whole green
>> regardless of the distance. Did you notice that there's practically no
>> different depth-of-field between f/4.5 and f/11, like if pictures were
DB2> taken
>> through haze or fog? I suspect the low-pass filter in front of the CCD to
DB2> be
>> responsible for that.
>>
>> Not to speak of the dynamic range: clouds in direct light should look as
>> being 3D, not like painted in watercolor as they look.
>> And what about the color balance? Greys of distant rocks must be tones of
>> grey (not pinkish as they are in IMGP1412), while the sky looks unnatural
>> cyan...
>>
>> Some days ago I stayed for some time at a pre-press service, where the
DB2> boss
>> made me see several DSLR pictures (downloaded at their full resolution),
DB2> and
>> we discussed them in deep.
>> When you enlarge pics taken with the 10D/300D or the S2 Pro (and also
DB2> those
>> taken with the best 4/5 MPixel digital compacts around) you can see  good
>> detail and little USM (as you dub UnSharp Masking, not to be confused with
>> UltraSonicMotor :-)
>> Despite that, in-focus and out-of-focus areas in picure are easy to spot
DB2> and
>> you can always find a sharp area somewhere. That has little if anything to
>> do with excessive in-camera unsharp mask, which I agree the lower the
>> better. In fact, you can apply unsharp mask on those good pics and they
>> still take it well.
>> That's not the case with the *ist D: when you apply enough USM to let
>> pictures look acceptable when smaller than 1:1 on video, when you enalarge
>> them 1:1 angled lines such as hair or grass are so much saw-toothed.
>>
>> I could go ahead with more details and comments, but I feel so bad in
DB2> having
>> to admit such things...
>>
>> Dario
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote:
>> > > Ryan wrote:
>> > > > I just got to say I LOVE MY *ist D !!!
>> > > > The image quality is sharper than I expected,
>> > >
>> > > Please forgive me, but maybe you were expecting too little, since all
>> *ist D
>> > > images I've seen so far look more or less blurred (compared to other
>> same
>> > > specs DSLR's), with no details in focus, like there's always camera
>> shake.
>> > > Am I the only one having such an impression?
>> >
>> > The internal sharpening that the *ist D does is less than any consumer
>> > digicam that I've ever seen and less than many digital SLRs.  Out of
>> > the camera images look much like they are from a scanned slide.  I
>> > think that this is a good thing -- you can always add sharpness, but
>> > you can't always remove it or the noise that it adds at higher ISOs.
>> > The camera does have an option to increase sharpness which might make
>> > images closer to other D-SLRs.  The Canon 300D has the most sharpness
>> > of any D-SLR that I've seen.
>> >
>> > There are some unsharpened full resolution *ist D images at
>> > http://phred.org/~alex/pictures/hiking/snow-lake-10-5-03/ from a
>> > hiking trip that I went on last week.  Please don't go crazy
>> > downloading them though, that'll be painful to my DSL line.  These
>> > were shot using the A 24/2.8 or the A 50/1.4 (most were from the
>> > 24/2.8).
>> >
>> > The resized images do have some USM applied.
>> >
>> > alex
>> >
>>



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