Ihave found that the battery consumption of my PZ-20 and PZ-70 is not really an issue. For my usage a single lithium battery lasts about a year. Hardly excess consumption. I also find the noise to be minimal and has never interferred with my use of the camera. These shutters use electromagnets and I tend to doubt the modern focal plane shutter has a spring in it any more...I may be wrong. I also find the series shooting ability of the motor drive very useful at times, sports car racing following a series of cars through a turn is only possible with a motor drive. Yesterday I was doing some gull (or some other shore bird) an I wanted a shot of a mass take off. Again, multiple exposures during a mass take off increases the likelyhood that I good pic will result without disturbing the birds too much. I have cameras with and without motor drive and they both have their uses, but i don't find the same problems with them you do, but follow your own needs. Jerry in Houston -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S is really sucks, now I know Shel, My main objection to power winders--be they built-in or screwed on--has been their noise. My specific objection to built-in winders has been that they don't let you see whether your film is advancing. Both objections appear to have have been addressed by the ZX-5n and some of its siblings. But aside from the fact that winders consume batteries faster, power winders still have two drawbacks: 1. With a built-in winder, I am forced to store his camera with its shutter spring tensioned. I suppose some of you will reply that no harm is done. But it's hard to imagine how continually tensioning the spring can will have no effect on its long-term performance and reliability. 2. With any power winder, I lose the option of keeping my camera turned "on" but the shutter locked "off." There are times when concern over accidentally tripping the shutter is paramount, especially if flash is mounted and charged. Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm curious what you think the advantages of manual advance are. Frankly, I wouldn't mind having a smallish, light-weight body with a built-in film advance. It would not, of course, replace my manual advance cameras, Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

