--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Antonio, > > Consider me to be one of the silent majority. I > have not kill filed > you and even read some of your posts. You do come > across as a bit hot > headed and wanting to attack, however. I have been > on the list for > many years and know the style and feel of this list. > The concept that > was presented was one of GENERAL consensus not TOTAL > consensus. Many > of the things that are stated had been discussed > quite thoroughly in > the past and had already been decided upon before > you came on board. > Just joining the list does not give you the right to > change the > general consensus based on your desires. As such, > you have the option > of trying to get along with the regulars and behave > in a similar style > to the list in general, or get ignored by the > majority. > > Your call.
Bruce, That's a well considered and level-headed post, and good advice to ~anyone~ on the list, IMHO. I think that the only thing I might take minor issue with is your statement that some things have "already been decided before [Antonio] came on board". I'm guessing that what you may have meant is that these things have been discussed before, and a consensus or understanding had been reached. I just wouldn't want Antonio or anyone else to think of Tom's FAQ as inflexible rules that can never be changed, or that have to be formally voted on to amend or something. Conditions change, membership shifts, individual's opinions change. In fact, they aren't rules or guidelines at all, just a few answers to some oft asked questions that often comes from newcomers to the list. Now, Antonio, I'll address this to you, because even though I've filtered off all your posts, I of course can see some of your posts when I read responses to to them: I think part of the problem with this particular thread, is that you just came in firing with all cannons, appearing to yell and scream that you don't want to be bound by these rules, and who is Tom anyway to try to impose these on you, and you disagree with them, and all the Crusty Old Farts on this list control things, and you're not going to let all us mean people tell you what to do. Had you read a few earlier posts on the thread, Tom actually posted several drafts, asked for any suggested amendments/additions, and after receiving those, came up with a more or less "final copy", and even then he made it clear that he was amenable to changes. This was in fact nothing "imposed" by anybody, it was as democratic as can be. Had you perhaps been a little more diplomatic, quietly indicating exactly what portions of the FAQ you disagreed with, perhaps Tom might have considered your suggestions and amended appropriately. But you just went and jumped all over him and your other perceived enemies, then wonder why everyone's against you. I'm not trying to be a jerk, and despite what you may think (and despite some angry words I may have had with you in the past), I don't dislike you. I'm genuinely trying to be a help, and maybe even extend an olive branch. That's my two cents. The sun just came out, and I have to get on my bike and go for a ride - well, I don't have to, I choose to. Please, Antonio, take this in the spirit it's intended. cheers, frank ===== "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca