Super price if it's in good shape!
It'll blow the doors off the 135.
May want to hold on to the 135 for days you don't want
to lug around that much size/weight though. ;-)

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Zaninovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Tokina AT-X 70-200 f2.8
> 
> 
> I got the Tokina AT-X 70-200 f2.8, manual focus version for $227. 
>  I hope it will perform better or equal than my $20 consumer grade
> Takumar 135mm f2.5 so I can retire it.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Is M or A better?
> 
> 
> > > Can the 70-210 f4 zoom really perform better than prime 200 f4
> > > when used wide open ?
> >
> > Yes, my sample did. Both lenses are in pristine condition by the way.
> >
> > > How about first Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f3.5?
> >
> > Never used one, apparently the third variation is the best.
> >
> > Which lens is best when used at 200 f4?
> >
> > Out of all the lenses I tested lately I found the 200mm f/4 M 
> to be best out
> > of the following listed in best first order:
> >
> > 1. SMC Pentax M 200 f/4
> > 2. SMC Pentax FA 80-320mm (200mm @ f/4.5)
> > 3. SMC Pentax A 70-210mm f/4
> > 4. SMC Pentax A 200mm f/4
> >
> > However the 200 M had the lowest contrast of all.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:34:30 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Is M or A better?
> >
> > > Can the 70-210 f4 zoom really perform better than prime 200 f4
> > > when used wide open ?  How about first Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f3.5
> > > ?  Which lens is best when used at 200 f4 ?  Is f4 bright enough and
> > > have shallow enough DOF to get accurate focus ?  I am now using
> > > cheap Takumar 135 f2.5 with a hood to increase contrast as it is not
> > > SMC and it is very bright and really easy to focus but sometimes I
> > > want to get closer or to zoom-out.  Does the 70-210 f4 zoom have the
> > > same problems as Vivitar when you point it down or up, does the zoom
> > > move ?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Totally agree. BTW A 70-210 f/4 zoom performs better than A 
> 200 f/4 prime
> > > >
> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> >
> 

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