Hi Rob,


Yes I agree, trying to work out whats going on with the newer off camera flash
adaptors is not particularly clear.

I cabled up my LX, tested the setup & then wrote the descriptions/setup


Below is the best descriptions of each item required that I came up with.....

Descriptions are from BOTTOM to TOP

31046
Off Camera Shoe Adapter F       
 Tripod female socket thread,
 Flash type hotshoe SLOTS for attaching to tripod Flash shoe (NO contacts)
 5P Socket for cable to other adaptors
 Female hotshoe with 4 contacts (mates with flashgun)

31022
Hot Shoe Adapter F
 Male hotshoe with 4 contacts
 5P Socket for cable to other adaptors
 Female hotshoe with 4 contacts

31045
Hot Shoe Adapter FG
 Male hotshoe with 4 contacts (looks like flashgun)
 5P Socket for cable to other adaptors
 Shaped to use RTF on MZ/ZX 

37347
Extension Cord F5P
 Coiled, 3ft max extension 

37349
Extension Cord F5P (L)
 Straight, 9.5ft




In my succesful test just now I used,


LX with Hot Shoe Adapter FG and F5P Cableto...

Off Camera Shoe Adapter F with cable from LX

On TOP of which I STACKED
Hot Shoe Adapter F with F5P cable to.....

Off Camera Shoe Adapter F



The key thing is the STACKED Hot Shoe Adapters (of different types)
The lower one has a tripod socket
The upper one has a hotshoe socket
BOTH have cable sockets, which allows daisychaining

To use multiple flashguns simply repeat the STACKED setup and add a cable


This arrangement would allow me to mount TWO analogue flashes remotely
from the camera on tripods for use with LX, MZ/ZX, PZ etc etc.

One could also use TWO Digital flashes with the MZ/ZX or PZ cameras.
(NOT Earlier cameras)

YOU CANNOT MIX DIGITAL & ANALOGUE FLASHES.


Regards

Rob
Robert Gillespie



I also kept this reply from Pentax to a similar question a few years back.

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Pentax said:

Thank you for your email. Though none of my colleagues have attempted a
multiple TTL flash setup with your ring light and macro photography, we
believe that the following combination of equipment will work.

One or more (up to a recommended of 3 maximum) AF220T or AF280T analog TTL
flashes. I personally like the 280T for its ease of use and higher power,
but that's my personal opinion.

One Hot Shoe Adapter F for each additional T flash that you use.
One F 5P sync cord for each additional T flash.
One Off Camera Shoe Adapter F for each additional T flash.

You would then mount your Hot Shoe Adapter F on your hot shoe (stack the
adapters if you are using more than one), and put your ring light module
on the top.

Run an F 5P cord from (each) Hot Shoe Adapter F to the Off Camera Shoe
Adapter F(s).

Mount your other flashes onto the Off Camera Shoe Adapter F(s). The
adapters will allow you to mount your other off camera flashes on a
tripod.

You will need a combination of the following items:

30307   AF-220T (w/case)
30381   AF-280T (w/case)

31022   Hot Shoe Adapter F (for off-camera flash).      $40.00

37347   Extension Cord F5P (3ft. max.- for off-camera flash)    $40.00
37349   Extension Cord F5P (L) (9.5ft. max.)    $83.00

31046   Off Camera Shoe Adapter F       $70.00

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From: Rob Studdert 
Subject: Off camera TTL flash options? 
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:04:46 -0700 


Hi Team,

I would like to put together a remote flash connection system so that I can 
use up to three flashes in parallel on my LX (am maybe the MZ-S) for 
creative TTL flash with macro images. I am fully aware of the components 
which allow this for the LX system however I am tired of chasing the parts 
which it seems are becoming more and more difficult to find let alone 
ridiculously expensive. 

In any case I am not really pleased with height of the Flash grip and would 
prefer a simple low profile device with a tripod socket on its base for adaption 
to a macro flash bracket. I expect that to fulfil my needs I will need to modify 
existing components (and maybe also integrate third party products into the 
system).

I trust the collective wisdom of the group will provide me with the answers to 
the following questions which will help me to determine all the options 
available:

Does anyone know where the conventional off camera flash components for 
the LX system can still be bought? ie flash grip, cables, distributor, sync 
cords, clamp, LX bracket

Can the new digital flashes be connected in parallel like the old analogue 
units (I have absolutely no experience with them)?

The remote flash options available for the digital system look like what I am 
after (I saw a photo of Mark Cassinos set up on his equipment page however 
Bozs site has broken links and last time I looked B&H had no pictures). Can 
the new systems be used to facilitate basic TTL off-camera flash for the LX?

Can someone provide links to pictures of the components (especially from 
directly above so that I can see the contact configuration)?

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA



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