Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: regarding> > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694>
> I'd like to see this in B&W, or with a slight sepia tone. People shoot > too > much color, perhaps because it's what they're used to seeing, or because > it's simpler to do (esp in digital), and a lot of photos are diminished by > that apoproach. A ~good~ thoughful B&W conversion may lift this from the > ordinary into something a bit more interesing and with greater impact. I disagree with you here on a couple of points: First, I don't think *this* image is diminished by being in colour; there are few colours here with the clothes being B&W and the other elements being muted colours. Second, I think the application of *sepia* generally makes the finished product about the process rather than what was going on in front of the lens. The original picture then becomes an ingredient in the production of a piece of what the producer considers artwork; I think in this case the image is about sharing something the photographer saw and a moment he experienced. (For that reason, the tilt doesn't bother me.) Third, I think that b&w vs. colour *is* largely a matter of taste and opinion, and I disagree with your opinion that "people shoot too much color" although I agree that the reason for all this colour shooting is that they see in colour. To me, for instance, colour photographs are more interesting to look at than b&w ones because they are more "real". To hold my attention, a black & white photograph has to be REALLY compelling in its content (some people on this list consistently shoot such compelling monochrome images.) My own history with black & white may explain my prejudices in this area: Although I have taken a few b&w photographs because I thought the subject matter needed b&w, most of the b&w I have ever shot was done in that medium either because I was restricted by my budget (years ago) or because I was restricted by the end use. I've read somewhere the suggestion that b&w photography would've never come up if the first technology to produce photographs had produced colour; frankly I suspect this is true. It started out as a limitation of the technology! like coarse grain in low-light shots, and sometimes reintroducing the limitation serves no purpose. Of course, sometimes it DOES serve a purpose ... But, this photograph we're discussing has a pretty clear content; isn't cluttered with any brightly-coloured distractions; doesn't need any "artistic" help like conversion to black and white or (shudder) sepia or (retch) infrared or cross-processing or (scream!) semi-conversion to negative to improve it. It's a slice of life and as such, is great just the way it is. IMO. Of course, I am in no way suggesting that your opinion ("people shoot too much color ... ") is not valid but since I hold an opposing opinion, I thought I would share it. ERNR