Frame's different, Control layout is similar. Shutter's the same, meter's the same AF unit's the same, like the AF motor is as well. A number of controls are common between the two. IE the mechanical parts are fairly common between the two, but the frame is entirely different, as is the viewfinder. I'd expect that most of the hardware in the mirror box is common between the two cameras.

-Adam



P. J. Alling wrote:


Adding this capability to a design that lacks it is not nearly as simple as you seem to think. And the DSLR's are built off a platform that lacked this capability to begin with (The *ist, which shares most of its mechanicsw ith teh DSLR's, although the frames are substantially different).



Where the hell do you get that? Have you even held an *ist and *ist-D at the same time. The two cameras are very different, a fact that was pointed out by a number of reviewers when they were both released.

Adam Maas wrote:

Hardware is certainly harder to integrate. With hardware you have the software integration issues still (Since you've got to add support to the firmware for the hardware you've added) plus you need to find space for the hardware, ensure it doesn't interfere with any other hardware and ensure it is electrically compatible with the hardware, and this is something that essentially needs to be done with any fresh design (Even if the interface specs are identical, like the K mount). I'll pretty much guarantee that the implementation of the aperture coupling is different(Although similar) from model-line to model-line. You can't just drop the hardware from a MZ-6 into an *ist D and call it a day.

Software, especially when it's simply piggybacking on already existent functionality like the Green-Button solution, is much easier to add as long as you have sufficient storage and CPU power. The green-button fix is likely a module or two drawing functions from the DoF code and the pre-existing Green-button code to make it stop-down meter then set Tv (the latter portion of the code already existed as part of the Green Button functionality in M mode with fully-supported lenses)

And testing is a whole othe rball of wax.

Adding this capability to a design that lacks it is not nearly as simple as you seem to think. And the DSLR's are built off a platform that lacked this capability to begin with (The *ist, which shares most of its mechanicsw ith teh DSLR's, although the frames are substantially different).

-Adam


J. C. O'Connell wrote:

Hardware is harder to integrate? Where do you
come with this crap? Hardware or software
difficulty depends on the task, sometimes
hardware is much easier solution. The firmware
"patch" is a bandaid not a fix.
jco
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:03 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: more green button wars


While the lenses do exist, the number of owners looking to buy into Digital or modern film are a fairly small fraction of the current market. Barely worth supporting, and not worth the extra engineering required to integrate the extra functionality into the design (Hardware is always harder to integrate than firmware, hence the firmware fix).

-Adam







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