Its not irrational to have it. Its irrational to have removed it. So if you think my position is stupid and you have just admitted it would be better in there then wouldn't that make you VERY stupid for disagreeing with yourself? That's far beyond stupidity, that's ill. sorry I don't like to get personal but this is the third time you have personally attacked me without any cause or argument. STOP IT. jco
-----Original Message----- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:18 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rename request On Sep 20, 2005, at 7:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No, I don't think so. Someone said once that they read the list > sometime. But > if one goes by what is said here and what Pentax does, I don't > think Pentax > pays much attention. :-) > ... In one of my former positions, I was to participate in external folks' conversation about the products I was supporting and return strategic information from that to the product development team. So I dutifully subscribed to all the newsgroups, mailing lists, forums, etc that constituted where the user base conversed and read every message, took extensive notes. It's long, ranting, stupid threads by an obsessively single-minded loudmouth like this that convinced me over and over again that the amount of actual signal in the noise from these venues is mostly worthless. It would be no surprise to me if Pentax does not listen here, or if they do, that they disregard it. I then took a different strategy and started to filter information based upon subscription to forums that required some level of credentialing ... either a support/service plan purchase, a bona-fide relationship to a development team activity, etc. The noise in the signal dropped to near nothing and the information returned to the company from these sources was useful and helped the team make good decisions on what was worth including or removing from the product. The more this kind of nonsense goes on, the less valuable it is to the company you are trying to influence, and the lower the credibility of this venue overall. JCO's passionate desire for the "$5 part" (which, btw, I don't disagree would be a nice thing to have...) may well have been completely compromised forever by his own obsessive, irrational behavior in demanding it. Godfrey
