NO NO NO- you are just being coy. Its well documented that you don't think theres anything wrong with Pentax dropping support of K/M lens functions INCLUDING open aperture AE function but at the same time you are now saying PROGRAM AE is important featue for users. WELL THEN - answer the question how can you say the program AE is important but COMPLETELY DROPPING AE ALTOGETHER from K/M lenses with zero compatablity issues is fine? That makes NO LOGICAL SENSE. In other words your insisting more exposure automation is very important except with K/M lenses then its NOT important - THAT'S THE CONTRADICTION in your "positions". You made the same dumb argument a while back on this, your worse than wrong, you cant even recognize your contridictions when they are even pointed out to you repeatedly! jco
-----Original Message----- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:15 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Camera engineering (This is signifigant) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Camera engineering (This is signifigant) > Here is YOUR STATEMENT that my reply > below was in resonse to: > > 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 > 888888 > 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 > WILLIAM ROBB WROTE: > > The most important factor is lens usability for THE MAJORITY of users. > For most users, this means programmed exposure automation and > autofocus, neither of which are supported, or supportable, by K/M > lenses. > > William Robb > 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 > 888888 > 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 > > As everyone can see you are contending that for most users PROGRAMMED > EXPOSURE AUTOMATION is one of the most important lens usability > factors, and at the same time you are saying full K/M support isnt > justified. But NO AE is possible at all with these crippled mount > DSLRs with K/M lenses so how can you say PROGRAMMED AE is a most > important lens usablity factor and then at the same time argue that > NO AE AT ALL with K/M lenses without any compatabiliy issues isnt > important loss of lens-camera function? Is that simple enough for > you to see the GROSS contradiction??? And don't even think > about trying to argue that if you cant get PROGRAMMED AE > with a KM lens then there is no point in regular AE so it > can be tossed aside without any real loss of fucntion or "USABILITY" > because the K/M lenses were all designed > for open aperture metering and open aperture AE functions for a reason, > it's a good feature for some situations where you need or want it. > So, you are saying that I am saying: PROGRAMMED > EXPOSURE AUTOMATION is one of the most important lens usability > factors and full K/M support isnt > justified. And somehow there is a contradiction? K/M lenses do not support programmed exposure automation. Period. Where's the contradiction? In what I am saying, not what you are saying I am saying, that is..... Shit, this is fun now. William Robb
