50 years ago we had the Asahiflex. Spotmatics 40 years ago  - aperturering
and all!
I believe a Takumar lens from a Spotmatic F would work on a *ist D.

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Fra: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 25. september 2005 14:21
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm


If you say "most camera lenses on earth", you must assume that that is
what people will think you mean.  Going back 50 years we have cameras like
the Brownie and the Instamatic.  Not an aperture ring in sight.  Going
back further, the numbers are so tiny as to be irrelevant.  Over any
period you want to choose, as long as it ends now (and not in 1920 for
instance), "most camera lenses on earth" won't have aperture rings.

I bet you'd find that the majority of K and M lenses are now in
collections, and are hardly used.  I personally have nine, and only the
50mm 1.2 actually gets put on a camera with any regularity. Why?  Because
more modern lenses offer significant advantages.  So, "most 35mm SLR
lenses on earth that actually get used regularly don't have aperture
rings" is probably also a true statement.

If you limit your claim to all K-mount lenses, then obviously most DO have
aperture rings because Pentax has been so slow to drop them.  That's nice
for users, but not necessarily good for business.

John

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 05:30:24 +0100, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Why not count the last 50 years! And why not just limit the math to
> K-mount
> and compatible lenses?
> 95% or more will have an aperturering.
> (Counting all point and shoots, video lenses, security cameras etc. is
> ridiculous in the present context)
>
> Jens Bladt
> Arkitekt MAA
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 25. september 2005 06:16
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
>
>
> John Forbes wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:32:25 +0100, Jens Bladt
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>
>>> 11. Accommodating Non-A lenses (what the H... is wrong with an aperture
>>> ring - most camera lenses on Earth have one).
>>
>>
>> That's obviously completely untrue.  How many P&S cameras have you
>> see  with an aperture ring?
>>
>> And even if you mean detachable lenses, I doubt if that's true if you
>> count all lenses sold in, say, the last five years.
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Especially considering how many EF mount lenses have been sold in the
> last 15 years, all without aperture rings.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>



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