Thanks Glen. Very helpful. I think you're correct. The toy is closest to the Uzi pistol. I may attempt the knurled cap. In any case, I can get the shape closer. The metal color and texture are helpful as well.
Paul
On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Glen wrote:

Actually, I don't think his toy was based on the MAC-10 or variants thereof. It looks much more like an UZI pistol or the Micro UZI. Here are some links, and everyone can decide for themselves:

First a page about MAC-10's:
http://www.firearmsid.com/Feature%20Articles/012001/Mac10History.htm

Now, the Micro UZI and UZI Pistol:
http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/micromain.htm

A good shot of a Micro UZI:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/104/1000/640/microuzi.jpg

An even bigger shot of the Micro UZI:
http://www.vectorarms.com/photos/MicroUZI.gif

And finally, the UZI Pistol:
http://www.widforss.se/auktion/auktion_h03/images_h03/H03_029.JPG


Judging from the position and shape of the trigger guard, I think the toy is an UZI pistol imitation. If I were retouching the barrel, I would try to make it look slimmer. The toy barrel is much too fat and stubby. There should also be a knurled ring at the base of the barrel, but that might be too hard to draw in by hand. There are actually a lot of details missing on the toy, but it's just a toy after all. I noticed that the real UZI guns don't have a lot of simple slotted screw heads showing. You might want to rethink the screw head detailing.

It will be interesting to see if you can make the toy look totally realistic.


take care,
Glen


At 08:52 PM 10/26/2005, Scott Loveless wrote:

You might start by looking at photos of Mac-10, M10, or M11 variants.
Your toy gun is based on these, not an UZI.  Besides, I think your
touch up doesn't look too bad.

There are a couple of photos here:
http://www.firearmsid.com/Feature%20Articles/012001/Mac10History.htm

On 10/26/05, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good idea, Shel. Thanks.
> On Oct 26, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> > Looks better ... but still not like a real Uzi. Did you go to one of
> > the
> > numerous Uzi pages and check out the gun pix?
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Paul Stenquist
> >
> >> I worked on the plastic gun on that pic I posted last week. I've never
> >> seen a real Uzi, and I doubt that this even comes close. But I do
> >> think
> >> it looks somewhat less plastic than it did as shot (so to speak). If
> >> any of you gun guys have a hint on how it might make it look more
> >> realistic, I'm all ears.
> >>
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3822906&size=lg
> >>
> >> If you want to see what the gun looked like before retouching, you can
> >> check it out in the other shot.
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3822917&size=lg
> >
> >
>
>


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