Well let's just say I've been a defendant in a civil case and endured a jury trial. I won. It was apparent, by the judge's actions, words, and demeanor throughout the trial, that if it was up to him, I would not have won. If I had not been able to retain representation that was competent in the legal issues of concern, I may not have won.

Jury trials are far from perfect, but one *might* have a chance of fair-minded jurors seeing to it that justice is served, or that at least a fair-minded verdict is delivered. With a judge (a civil servant and therefore an "arm of the law") the chances are pretty much reduced to 50/50 based on the views and opinions of one person.

It gets worse when the accusing party is an arm of the government, the same government of which the judicial branch is an arm, and the judge knows the accusing party on a regular first name basis.


Tom C.



--- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know about that, I expect that real justice is a likely
> either
> way.  Juries can be capricious, so can judges.  The system doesn't
> even
> try to guarantee justice by the way, only process.
>
> Tom C wrote:
>
> > Don't think my earlier comments meant I have faith in the justice
> > system(s).  It's just that one probably stands a better chance of
> > justice (statistically) if their case is heard by a jury than by a
> > judge, or any other single person.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >> To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> >> Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
> >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:46:58 -0000
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > >and when you castrate an innocent person, how will you put his
> balls
> >> > >back on?
> >> >
> >> > Someone proven by the courts to be guilty is likely to be
> >> > guilty.
> >>
> >>
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2001/life_of_crime/misca
>
> >>
> >> rriages.stm
> >>
> >> > I'm happy with the risk he might be innocent. Balls away!
> >>
> >> ...until it's you, or your son, presumably.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> When you're worried or in doubt,
>    Run in circles, (scream and shout).
>
>


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