Jens, I said "I recommended before that you meter your highlights and place 
them at the high-end of what the camera can record -- use the spot meter -- and 
this will give you a better overall image".  I did not say "use the spot meter 
and set the swans to middle grey".

Come on now, at least read what you're responding to.  Take a reading off of 
the swans and set that somewhere around 2.5 stops over.

If you're unwilling to meter properly, at least stop complaining that your 
results are poor!

-Aaron

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From:  "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj:  RE: Coming Soon - A new K-mount Film Camera
Date:  Tue Jul 4, 2006 7:01 pm
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I doubt spotmetering the highlights would work for me. The meter will try to
expose, so the highlights would get an 18% grey colour, which is a lot
darker than it should be.
In a panorama scene, if I did measure the highligts (swans on the lake) -
the result would pretty much be the same - an overall underexposed frame.

I have just been reading about software - Photomatrix - that can post
process images for a panorama. The dynamic range of a 360 degree panorama is
much larger than any film or sensor can actually deal with - there's a
bright and a dark side - especialy in Scandinavia, where the sun often is
quite low. This software is supposed to help getting details in both
highlights and shadows. But I'm afraid it will require multiple (three)
exposures for every position. This means a lot work. And will emphasaize the
speed issue.

For the last two days I have done panoramas with my MZ-S a 31mm lens and
slide film. With this combo I can actually shoot faster than I can move the
camera from on place to the other. If this doesn't produce better results, I
may move on to other options - perhaps one-shot solutions.

This one, made by Hans Nyberg, is quite nice:
http://www.panoramas.dk/newspanos/f26-sankt-hans.html
Hans told me, that he is using one shot and six shot equipment!

He did this one for the Danish television (the Royal Wedding 2004):
http://qtvr.dk/bryllup/

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

> I didn't know there was a different mindset for digital - except for
> trying
> harder to avoid overexposure/blown out highlights. I usually regard
> JPEGs as
> slides, RAW as negs.
> I have BTW noticed that I'm not the only one who normally underexposes
> deliberately by 0.3-0.5 F-stop. (I shoot RAW 99% of the time).

While others do it too, you're going about it in the wrong direction.
I recommended before that you meter your highlights and place them at
the high-end of what the camera can record -- use the spot meter -- and
this will give you a better overall image, and less time spent on
post-production.

RAW files are like negs, but you still get the best print by exposing
to each particular negative film's strengths.  Just because a negative
has a lot of latitude and can make an acceptable print from a lousy
exposure, that doesn't make the lousy exposure the ideal way of
exposing.

-Aaron

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