Doug wrote:
>European Socialism has it's
roots in the rigid class lines of the Feudal system.

This is very far from the truth - at least very inacurate.

Socialism has it's roots in the capitalistic class system or class division
between those who own land, machines, factories, buildings (capital) etc. on
one side - and those who owns nothing but their own hands (the ability to
work) on the other side -  the working class. Socialism is a working class
ideology, whith the objective, that the working class must seize power - in
order to create - at first - working class dictatorship, which is later to
be replaced by a communist system - a classless society, where everything is
shared by everybody.

Unfortunately a truely communist society has never yet been achieved
anywhere. Although many have tried. It seems that the human nature (egoism)
is causing the socialist sytsems to suffer from all kinds of corruption,
missuse of power etc. leading to disasterous systems of state-capitalism
(USSR, CHINA), that is often less human than a modern capitalic system - the
capitalistic democracy.

Of course capitalism has it's root in the feudal system - so there is a
connection - the feudal system was a class divieded system as well.
Socialism has it's roots in the capitalistic system. Communism has it's
roots in socialism.

The feudal division was enforced by the use of violence. The capitalistic
class divison is enforced by primarily economics and - in democarcies - also
by political power.

Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
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+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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The US hasn't had rigid class lines outside of the Northeast in the last
century or so.  US divisions were more between nativists and immigrants,
and regional ties, (North vs. South, East vs. West).  Even Black vs
White had all classes within each group.  European Socialism has it's
roots in the rigid class lines of the Feudal system.

Douglas Newman wrote:

>--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>That's certainly not true in the US.
>>
>>
>
>US politics are radically different than any other
>industrialized country. The US doesn't even have a
>substantial organized socialist party (in most other
>industrialized countries, it's the biggest or
>second-biggest one).
>
>Doug
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