BTW: Capitalism has - until now - been the most successfull economical/political system. It has provided us with lots of food, maschines, medicine etc. This is natures own system - the survival of the fitest. Unfortnalty this system is - like nature- driven by profit - by the greed of the fitest (us). IMO it will inevitably lead the destruction of nature - the destruction of natures resources - in the end to the destruction of the planet. It works like this: He/she who has commercial success gets rich. He/she who is rich has the power to act, to make decisions, to influence the political powers etc. etc.
In a capitalistic system money rules - the rich people rules. But unfortunately the commercially right decisions are not always the best decisions. A capitalistic system will lead to global heating (!), pollution, destruction of natures resources etc. etc. - and in the end - to the destruction of the planet and the human race. IMO this system will eventually have to be replaced by better system. A sytem where common sence, respect for nature, for the planet, for all beings, replaces profit (greed) as the "bottom line". Until then I'll support a system based on democracy - a democracy that takes the side of loosers on this planet: Nature, the week people, the poor people. That has got to be the social democrats - at present. Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 30. september 2006 16:41 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists) Doug wrote: >European Socialism has it's roots in the rigid class lines of the Feudal system. This is very far from the truth - at least very inacurate. Socialism has it's roots in the capitalistic class system or class division between those who own land, machines, factories, buildings (capital) etc. on one side - and those who owns nothing but their own hands (the ability to work) on the other side - the working class. Socialism is a working class ideology, whith the objective, that the working class must seize power - in order to create - at first - working class dictatorship, which is later to be replaced by a communist system - a classless society, where everything is shared by everybody. Unfortunately a truely communist society has never yet been achieved anywhere. Although many have tried. It seems that the human nature (egoism) is causing the socialist sytsems to suffer from all kinds of corruption, missuse of power etc. leading to disasterous systems of state-capitalism (USSR, CHINA), that is often less human than a modern capitalic system - the capitalistic democracy. Of course capitalism has it's root in the feudal system - so there is a connection - the feudal system was a class divieded system as well. Socialism has it's roots in the capitalistic system. Communism has it's roots in socialism. The feudal division was enforced by the use of violence. The capitalistic class divison is enforced by primarily economics and - in democarcies - also by political power. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 27. september 2006 03:51 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists) The US hasn't had rigid class lines outside of the Northeast in the last century or so. US divisions were more between nativists and immigrants, and regional ties, (North vs. South, East vs. West). Even Black vs White had all classes within each group. European Socialism has it's roots in the rigid class lines of the Feudal system. Douglas Newman wrote: >--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>That's certainly not true in the US. >> >> > >US politics are radically different than any other >industrialized country. The US doesn't even have a >substantial organized socialist party (in most other >industrialized countries, it's the biggest or >second-biggest one). > >Doug > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 09/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
