I shoot a D and a Ds, and yes I have no real problem in normal shooting 
using the green button/AE-L kludge with my K/M lenses.  However I've 
also been shooting weddings lately, and one of my favorite lenses for 
that is the Vivitar S1 35-85 f2.8, wonderful bokeh, and fast and 
available at a reasonable price, and when things are happening fast it 
can be a PITA.  Don't tell me that I should invest in a new lens, it's 
economically unfeasible based on the income. Especially considering that 
a new equivalent in the 28-70mm  range with a fixed aperture would cost 
at least than 10 times what I paid for a pair of these lenses, if I 
could find one at all.  I'm living with the limitations I don't have to 
be happy with them.

Adam Maas wrote:

>Pushing 2 buttons instead of one is slowing down?
>
>I also shoot with K/M lenses, don't own as many as you, but 2 of my 3 
>main lenses are K/M (Kiron 28/2, SMC-M 50/2, SMC-A 70-210) and I shoot 
>with a couple of screwmount lenses too.
>
>You don't shoot with a Pentax DSLR, so you don't know how simple it is 
>in actual practice. Until you've tried it in the field, you won't. 
>Experience is the telling point here (I thought it would be a hassle 
>myself when I bought the D. It wasn't).
>
>-Adam
>
>
>J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>  
>
>>Look you can apologize all you want for pentax
>>But I have over two dozen world class NICE manual focus
>>Pentax PK/PKM lenses and I DON’T BUY what I don’t
>>Want. I wanted K/KM support in the new top line
>>Body, if you don’t, that doesn’t matter to me
>>One Iota. ALL of the later Pentax MF lenses are 
>>Garbage including the "A" series compared to the K/M
>>Lenses in terms of build quality and user "feel".
>>
>>Gimme a friggin break with your "you don’t own a pentax DSLR
>>So you don’t know what youre talking about" B.S.
>>
>>I never said I wouldn’t buy the istD,K100,or K10 but God
>>Damn I would buy one yesterday if it had the key features
>>I want. Secondly I think the whole point of 35mm/DSLR
>>Is fast work and good automation. If I have time to slow
>>Down for every shot I would use MF/LF all the time.
>>
>>jco
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>Shel Belinkoff
>>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:43 AM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>
>>It's the same old song from JCO every time the subject comes up.  I
>>think
>>we all know his view on this by now.  I don't recall, but does he have a
>>Pentax DSLR?
>>
>>I will say this, however, it may be easier for some to adjust to the
>>"green
>>button" approach than others.  For example, having come from meterless
>>cameras and using hand held meters, pushing the AEL button on the DS
>>and,
>>if desired, checking exposure with the DOF lever, sure makes using pre-A
>>lenses easy.  However, I still shoot more than 50% of my shots using my
>>own
>>exposure guide, the one that's built into my head, rather than using the
>>meter in the camera at every shot.
>>
>>Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Tim Øsleby 
>>>      
>>>
>>>I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously 
>>>wrong  [slapping myself happily over forehead]. 
>>>
>>>The glass is half empty, not half full.
>>>      
>>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: J. C. O'Connell
>>>      
>>>
>>>No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line 
>>>camera would be A camera that could read 
>>>the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this is
>>>Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE 
>>>to implement... Semi automanual manual is 
>>>good but it aint open aperture AE With PK 
>>>PKM, while is very possible but still is not done.
>>>      
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>


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