I'm not going to disagree with you on that, with the caveat that this 
applies when the lighting is inconsistent or changing, otherwise you 
generally don't need to meter (Weddings are an exception to that since 
you are balancing such an extreme contrast range due to clothing colour).

-Adam



P. J. Alling wrote:
> I shoot a D and a Ds, and yes I have no real problem in normal shooting 
> using the green button/AE-L kludge with my K/M lenses.  However I've 
> also been shooting weddings lately, and one of my favorite lenses for 
> that is the Vivitar S1 35-85 f2.8, wonderful bokeh, and fast and 
> available at a reasonable price, and when things are happening fast it 
> can be a PITA.  Don't tell me that I should invest in a new lens, it's 
> economically unfeasible based on the income. Especially considering that 
> a new equivalent in the 28-70mm  range with a fixed aperture would cost 
> at least than 10 times what I paid for a pair of these lenses, if I 
> could find one at all.  I'm living with the limitations I don't have to 
> be happy with them.
> 
> Adam Maas wrote:
> 
>> Pushing 2 buttons instead of one is slowing down?
>>
>> I also shoot with K/M lenses, don't own as many as you, but 2 of my 3 
>> main lenses are K/M (Kiron 28/2, SMC-M 50/2, SMC-A 70-210) and I shoot 
>> with a couple of screwmount lenses too.
>>
>> You don't shoot with a Pentax DSLR, so you don't know how simple it is 
>> in actual practice. Until you've tried it in the field, you won't. 
>> Experience is the telling point here (I thought it would be a hassle 
>> myself when I bought the D. It wasn't).
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Look you can apologize all you want for pentax
>>> But I have over two dozen world class NICE manual focus
>>> Pentax PK/PKM lenses and I DON’T BUY what I don’t
>>> Want. I wanted K/KM support in the new top line
>>> Body, if you don’t, that doesn’t matter to me
>>> One Iota. ALL of the later Pentax MF lenses are 
>>> Garbage including the "A" series compared to the K/M
>>> Lenses in terms of build quality and user "feel".
>>>
>>> Gimme a friggin break with your "you don’t own a pentax DSLR
>>> So you don’t know what youre talking about" B.S.
>>>
>>> I never said I wouldn’t buy the istD,K100,or K10 but God
>>> Damn I would buy one yesterday if it had the key features
>>> I want. Secondly I think the whole point of 35mm/DSLR
>>> Is fast work and good automation. If I have time to slow
>>> Down for every shot I would use MF/LF all the time.
>>>
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>> Shel Belinkoff
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:43 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
>>>
>>> It's the same old song from JCO every time the subject comes up.  I
>>> think
>>> we all know his view on this by now.  I don't recall, but does he have a
>>> Pentax DSLR?
>>>
>>> I will say this, however, it may be easier for some to adjust to the
>>> "green
>>> button" approach than others.  For example, having come from meterless
>>> cameras and using hand held meters, pushing the AEL button on the DS
>>> and,
>>> if desired, checking exposure with the DOF lever, sure makes using pre-A
>>> lenses easy.  However, I still shoot more than 50% of my shots using my
>>> own
>>> exposure guide, the one that's built into my head, rather than using the
>>> meter in the camera at every shot.
>>>
>>> Shel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: Tim Øsleby 
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously 
>>>> wrong  [slapping myself happily over forehead]. 
>>>>
>>>> The glass is half empty, not half full.
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: J. C. O'Connell
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line 
>>>> camera would be A camera that could read 
>>>> the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this is
>>>> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE 
>>>> to implement... Semi automanual manual is 
>>>> good but it aint open aperture AE With PK 
>>>> PKM, while is very possible but still is not done.
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>  
>>
> 
> 


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