Note the last body introduced with an aperture simulator was the MZ-S. The MZ-M is an older body remaining in either hsort-run production or stocks. It was introduced almost 10 years ago.
-Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > Pentax wrote it off in the Semi Pro bodies only with the introduction of > the *ist and *ist-D. This is very recent, in fact they still supported > it on what is a current model MZ/ZX-M, though admittedly probably no > longer in full production, it is still considered a current model. > (http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/product--ZX-M/reqID--5004/subsection--film_slr) > > The MZ/ZX-M is in any way you look at their ultimate entry level camera > at this time. It would be silly not to include in this case but in many > ways it's just as silly not to support it on newer top level models. If > the K10D included support for aperture simulator, I'd buy one tomorrow > rather than waiting for the price to drop. > > Adam Maas wrote: > >> No, there is nothing to prevent it being re-implemented. But the Camera >> makers in the position to do so (Nikon and Pentax, the only two of major >> makers stillusing their MF mount) have written it off on consumer and >> semi-pro bodies a number of years ago. This happened in the film era, >> we've actually got more functionality on the Pentax DSLR's than on many >> recent film bodies (*ist, MZ-30/50/60, many more on the Nikon side). >> >> Would I like to see the Aperture Simulator return? Hell Yes. Do I expect >> it? Not unless Pentax makes a K1D. Can I live without it? Most Assuredly. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> >> >>> Bullshit. There is nothing to prevent its implementation >>> In the future, either by Pentax or other camera makers >>> Using the PK mount. >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> Adam Maas >>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:45 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> Because it ain't shit. >>> >>> The green button hack is one of the reasons I bought the K100D to >>> replace my D50. Some metering is better than no metering. And that's the >>> >>> choice we're faced with. >>> >>> The Aperture Simulator is dead. Deal With It. Those of us who shoot with >>> >>> K glass and the DSLR's are doing just fine. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Why settle for shit for no reason? >>>> Glass is still definitely half empty. >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> >>>> >>> Of >>> >>> >>>> Tim Øsleby >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong >>>> [slapping myself happily over forehead]. >>>> >>>> The glass is half empty, not half full. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> >>>> >>> Of >>> >>> >>>> J. >>>> C. O'Connell >>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be >>>> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this >>>> >>>> >>> is >>> >>> >>>> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... >>>> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE >>>> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> >>>> >>> Of >>> >>> >>>> Tim Øsleby >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> Welcome onboard David. >>>> >>>> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses >>>> before I >>>> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, >>>> >>>> >>> you >>> >>> >>>> will get used to it. >>>> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the >>>> light. >>>> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and then >>>> >>>> >>> to >>> >>> >>>> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. >>>> >>>> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations >>>> >>>> >>> you >>> >>> >>>> can >>>> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the >>>> same as >>>> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being prepared >>>> for >>>> the decisive moment. >>>> >>>> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as an >>>> extra >>>> bonus. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> >>>> >>> Of >>> >>> >>>> David Bliss >>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 >>>> To: pdml@pdml.net >>>> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last >>>> >>>> >>> few >>> >>> >>>> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. I'm >>>> >>>> >>> a >>> >>> >>>> long >>>> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first DSLR. >>>> >>>> >>> I >>> >>> >>>> was >>>> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... >>>> >>>> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use it >>>> on >>>> a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for using >>>> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview only >>>> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). >>>> >>>> The dpreview page >>>> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) >>>> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says >>>> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think >>>> >>>> >>> that >>> >>> >>>> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the >>>> >>>> >>> K10D. >>> >>> >>>> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a >>>> mechanical >>>> aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a couple >>>> >>>> >>> of >>> >>> >>>> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone confirm >>>> this for sure one was or the other? >>>> >>>> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the K10D) >>>> disable >>>> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, obviously) >>>> and >>>> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I >>>> >>>> >>> cannot >>> >>> >>>> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the >>>> >>>> >>> lens >>> >>> >>>> aperture being set manually. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> David Bliss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
