HAR!! On Oct 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> Of course, 50% of those lenses you refer to are 50mm f2's sitting in a > shoebox with a K1000 somewhere. > > -Adam > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> Oh Screw You. You don’t have a clue if you think that legacy >> Lens support is only a minor issue. And like an >> Idiot it's NOT the age of the lenses it's WHAT >> The PK/PKM lenses are, which are superb MANUAL >> Focus lenses which are not even available new >> Anymore so there is great reason to support them. >> AGE IS IRRELAVANT. There are MORE PK/PKM lenses >> In existence than all other lens series combined so >> MOST Pentax BRAND lenses are not fully supported. That’s >> Not good by any standards....This is a Pentax support >> Issue, not a compatability issue which really sucks >> IMHO. If yours differs, so be it, but you cannot >> Prove your points by calling me an idiot, it just >> Makes you look like an idiot in doing so.. >> Jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> John Forbes >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:21 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Don't apologise to JC O'Connell. >> >> He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six >> months or >> >> so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for >> very >> >> old lenses. >> >> After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: "Gimme a friggin >> break with your "you don?t own a pentax (sic) DSLR So (sic) you don?t >> know >> what youre (sic) talking about" B.S."). >> >> Eventually, after about a dozen posts, this one-issue idiot has an >> apoplectic fit, and shuts up for another six months while he >> recovers. >> >> Then the cycle starts all over again. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:49:13 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> I know that now. >>>> From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment. >>> JCO. >>> Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been >> solved >>> better, I agree on that. >>> But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of >>> beating >> >>> this >>> dead horse. I don't believe irritation over this minor issue (for >>> me) >> >>> will >>> make me a better photographer. >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> J. >>> C. O'Connell >>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:34 >>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> Why settle for shit for no reason? >>> Glass is still definitely half empty. >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> Tim Øsleby >>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM >>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong >>> [slapping myself happily over forehead]. >>> >>> The glass is half empty, not half full. >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> J. >>> C. O'Connell >>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 >>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be >>> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this >> is >>> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... >>> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE >>> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> Tim Øsleby >>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM >>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> Welcome onboard David. >>> >>> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses >>> before I >>> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, >> you >>> will get used to it. >>> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the >>> light. >>> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and >>> then >> to >>> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. >>> >>> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations >> you >>> can >>> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the >>> same as >>> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being >>> prepared >>> for >>> the decisive moment. >>> >>> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses >>> as an >>> extra >>> bonus. >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> David Bliss >>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 >>> To: pdml@pdml.net >>> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last >> few >>> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. >>> I'm >> a >>> long >>> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first >>> DSLR. >> I >>> was >>> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... >>> >>> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to >>> use it >>> on >>> a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for >>> using >>> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview >>> only >>> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). >>> >>> The dpreview page >>> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) >>> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says >>> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think >> that >>> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the >> K10D. >>> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a >>> mechanical >>> aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a couple >> of >>> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone >>> confirm >>> this for sure one was or the other? >>> >>> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the >>> K10D) >>> disable >>> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, >>> obviously) >>> and >>> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I >> cannot >>> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the >> lens >>> aperture being set manually. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> David Bliss >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
