> > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 11:52:43 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: Your first camera > > On 10/22/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are > > also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So > > a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want > > to go out and take pictures. > > > > A better way to make your son a man amongst men (assuming that's > > something to be desired, which I think is highly debatable) is to > > teach him to like football & beer. There are few sadder sights than a > > cluster of middle-aged men in beige peering longingly into the window > > of a camera shop. > > > > *this is not necessarily a direct result of any genetic differences, > > but could derive from the greater social power of men historically. > > > > While it may (or may not) be that a larger percentage of (so-called) > serious photographers are men, I think it's true that in it's early > days, a photography (at least in its "higher levels") included a > larger percentage of women than other visual arts. Think Margaret > Bourke-White, Imogen Cunningham, Dorothea Lange, Tina Mondetti, Julia > Cameron, Leni Reifenstal (a great photographer despite what may have > been her politics). > > I've always thought that was because photography was, at the time, a > relatively new medium, and was struggling to be accepted as a true > "art". There was less resistance to women participating as there > wasn't so much of an establishment as there was in other artforms. > Not only that, but as a newer artform, it may have naturally attracted > women who had an artistic bent, but were effectively shut out from > more established visual arts. > > Interesting that someone mentioned automobiles as a guy thing that > rears it's head on this list on a more-than-regular basis. As most of > you know, I'm an ardent cyclist. It's interesting that in it's > infancy in the late 1800's, cycling (a new technology at the time) was > embraced by women, and has been seen as a great liberating force, not > just due to the freedom afforded by personal transportation, but due > to the fact that bikes can't be ridden with high-button boots, long > dresses and corsets. Physically liberating clothing was required, > which was greatly resisted by many (if not most) males of the time. > Many of the movements to allow women on bicycles (with appropriate > dress) were direct forerunners of the suffragette movement and > therefore women's liberation.
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