John. This is none of my business. Despite this, I kindly do suggest that you reread Shel's post.
The way read him he does not suggest, or not even hint, that you have ripped him off or tried to rip him off in any way. All he claims is that you responded in an abusive and aggressive way, when he said the front element was loose. No more, no less. When seeing the language you have used in your response here, I have no problem imagining what kind of language he is referring to. Basically what he says, is that he dislikes being verbally abused. I'm not Shel, but I guess that's why he does not want to do business with you any more. This I can sympathise with. Abusive language makes me feel uncomfortable too. This said. Based on what I have seen here, I have no reason not to make business with you. But I do think Shel has a very valid point in his third paragraph. It seems that you are not fully aware how your language and general list behaviour come across. Remember; this is a family list. Children, and others, might get scared. I can hardly imagine that's your purpose. In the name of just. I also do think Shel could have made a better example. IMO it would have been more appropriate choosing something public, not personal, something from the list. One more point, also in the name of just. John is not the only one using abusive language in this so called aperture simulator threads. I could name others. You know who you are; this is a family list, remember? At the beginning of the debate I must admit that I was kind of amused. But that changed after about 100 posts. Now it is a total waste. All this swearing and aggression over a camera feature, a dead thing. This really saddens me. And folks (I'm addressing all now), if you have to swear, why don't use some creativity and come up with some colourful swearing? If swearing in black and white; please put some effort in the rendering ;-) Peace and love, Tim ;-) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 24. oktober 2006 02:30 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The JCO survey Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was "Screw you, dude ..." (See below) I think that your foul mouth and abusive language are so much a part of you that you aren't even fully aware of what you say or how you come across. When I bought the K50/1.4 from you on eBay, and told you the front element was lose, you replied with a challenging, abusive email. Of course, I'll never do business with you again. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
