Canon offers FF (1Ds series, 5D), 1.3x crop (the 1D series high fps bodies) and 
1.6x crop (Digital Rebels, 30D and antescendants). EF-S lenses are for the 1.6x 
cropped bodies from the original Digital Rebel on, earlier 1.6x crop bodies 
cannot use them as they are mechanically incompatible with plain EF mount 
bodies (EF-S bodies can mount EF-S lenses, but EF-S lenses do not mount on EF 
bodies).

-Adam



J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> Curious, do all canon non FF DSLRS
> have the same crop factor and is canon
> now offering "digital non FF lenses" that only
> cover the smaller than FF sensors like Pentax is?
> jco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Adam Maas
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D
> 
> 
> Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> 
>>>>    Yeah... I give Canon 6 months before they introduce in-body 
>>>>anti-shake.  I think they'll have to to compete.  Given that probably
> 
> 
>>>>90% of the DSLR buyers never buy another lens other than the kit 
>>>>lens, it's a great selling point.
>>>
>>>I think they'll just make all the CKLs (crappy kit lenses) IS from now
> 
> 
>>>on.  They have one ( the 17-85 USM IS) already.  Combine that with the
> 
> 
>>>atrocious 70-300 f4-5.6 IS and you have a full range of 
>>>image-stabilized focal lengths for your "average" digiRebel user.
>>>
>>
>>      I was unaware that they had mediocre IS lenses.... I thought
> 
> they
> 
>>were all pretty much on the decent-good scale.  What you propose makes
> 
> a 
> 
>>lot more sense, and is more "Canon-esk"... force more lens purchases.
>>
>>-Cory
>>
> 
> 
> The original IS lens, the 75-300, is a hunk of putrescent crap. 
> 
> Non-L zooms are typically mediocre to poor, the exception being the
> 28-105 f3.5-4.5 (the f4-5.6 version is craptacular), the 70-300's (good
> on 1.6x crop bodies, average on film, poor on FF) and the two 'almost L'
> EF-S zooms, the 10-22 and 17-55 IS. Non-L primes are all over the place,
> mostly excellent, but there's a few dogs (Same goes for the L line, the
> 14L in particular is a dog).
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 



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