I find this discussion silly because it is winding all over the place and cannot be resolved. None of us want global warming or are in favor of it. The scientific facts are still under review and development. None of us can do very much at this moment to stop it. And nobody has built the national political resolve to take a 1/2 of 1% hit on Gross National Product to even start addressing the issue.
So here we sit, argueing 'the sky is falling' or is not. Saying it is your fault or is not. And DOING not a single constructive thing to help the situation. Make a constructive suggestion and move on. No more finger pointing. Regards, Bob S. On 12/29/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry about your mother, Bob S. > > With all respect, what do you find silly about the discussion? > > Jostein > > On 12/29/06, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This discussion is so silly. > > My mother died from 2nd hand smoke. > > She was never a smoker. > > My father quit in his early thirties. > > She spent the last years of her life with a big oxygen bottle at her side > > 24x7. > > Bob S. > > > > On 12/29/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 12/29/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was wondering when this thread might turn to the tobacco habits of > > > > so many of our European friends. There are those among them who are > > > > quick to criticize the vehicle habits of Americans but staunchly > > > > defend their right to burn tobacco leaves all day long. A strange > > > > dichotomy. > > > > Paul > > > > > > Paul, > > > Nobody in Europe are "staunchly defending their right to burn tobacco > > > leaves all day long" any more than the Californian bar guests that > > > Scott describes elsewhere in this thread. > > > > > > According to numbers from WHO, the consumption of cigarettes in 1998 > > > was 606 billions for Western Europe, and 451 billions for USA. Adjust > > > for population size, and the per capita consume is about the same in > > > the two regions. > > > Sources: > > > http://www.who.int/entity/tobacco/en/atlas8.pdf > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_USA > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_European_Union > > > > > > > > > Another aspect is that tobacco is a cash crop. Just like cocaine, > > > opium, and cannabis it is intended solely for supporting a > > > nerve-system stimulating habit.. With the latter three, much effort > > > goes into encouraging farmers to produce other crops instead. That > > > would be nice for tobacco too. > > > > > > And for the record of dichotomies, both USA and European countries are > > > among the top ten tobacco producers of the world. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco > > > > > > There's virtually no difference in European and American positions on > > > tobacco. > > > > > > <g> > > > Except that Europeans smoke in smaller, less polluting cars. > > > </g> > > > > > > > > > Jostein > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
