I thought this was already solved in a parallel universe or something. All
we need to do is get in touch with our counterparts and ask them how they
did it.
LOL.
The sky is falling most definitely. My particular beliefs lead me to believe
1) that we should individually be environmentally responsible and 2) that
the real solution in the bigger picture is out of our hands.
Tom C.
From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:03:07 -0600
I find this discussion silly because it is winding all over the place
and cannot be resolved. None of us want global warming or are in
favor of it. The scientific facts are still under review and
development. None of us can do very much at this moment to stop it.
And nobody has built the national political resolve to take a 1/2 of
1% hit on Gross National Product to even start addressing the issue.
So here we sit, argueing 'the sky is falling' or is not. Saying it is
your fault or is not. And DOING not a single constructive thing to
help the situation.
Make a constructive suggestion and move on. No more finger pointing.
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/29/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry about your mother, Bob S.
>
> With all respect, what do you find silly about the discussion?
>
> Jostein
>
> On 12/29/06, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This discussion is so silly.
> > My mother died from 2nd hand smoke.
> > She was never a smoker.
> > My father quit in his early thirties.
> > She spent the last years of her life with a big oxygen bottle at her
side 24x7.
> > Bob S.
> >
> > On 12/29/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 12/29/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I was wondering when this thread might turn to the tobacco habits
of
> > > > so many of our European friends. There are those among them who
are
> > > > quick to criticize the vehicle habits of Americans but staunchly
> > > > defend their right to burn tobacco leaves all day long. A strange
> > > > dichotomy.
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > > Nobody in Europe are "staunchly defending their right to burn
tobacco
> > > leaves all day long" any more than the Californian bar guests that
> > > Scott describes elsewhere in this thread.
> > >
> > > According to numbers from WHO, the consumption of cigarettes in 1998
> > > was 606 billions for Western Europe, and 451 billions for USA.
Adjust
> > > for population size, and the per capita consume is about the same in
> > > the two regions.
> > > Sources:
> > > http://www.who.int/entity/tobacco/en/atlas8.pdf
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_USA
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_European_Union
> > >
> > >
> > > Another aspect is that tobacco is a cash crop. Just like cocaine,
> > > opium, and cannabis it is intended solely for supporting a
> > > nerve-system stimulating habit.. With the latter three, much effort
> > > goes into encouraging farmers to produce other crops instead. That
> > > would be nice for tobacco too.
> > >
> > > And for the record of dichotomies, both USA and European countries
are
> > > among the top ten tobacco producers of the world.
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco
> > >
> > > There's virtually no difference in European and American positions
on tobacco.
> > >
> > > <g>
> > > Except that Europeans smoke in smaller, less polluting cars.
> > > </g>
> > >
> > >
> > > Jostein
> > >
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