You kind of left out the part about my passing the GED cold, the 10 or 20 tech certificates I have obtained, and the fact I have the equivalent of a BSEE. I do have some college but there are too many people like you for me to be comfortable there. However, I am proud of walking out of school in the tenth grade, when I in fact had the equivalent of a good university education. My teachers were, like you, stupid in the extreme. They thought a piece of paper was more important than understanding, they also lied about everything rather than admit they did not understand what they were allegedly teaching. I do have a lot of faults, but, on the other hand, I am not a fucking queer!
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Dec 28, 2006, at 11:12 PM, David Savage wrote: > >> Touchy, touchy. I wasn't attacking your intelligence. Simply saying >> that an education doesn't make you a smart person. > > I never said that it did. Being educated has nothing to do with being > smart. It has everything to do with being trained in how to look for > and find information. > > I did insinuate that someone who seems to hold proudly that he does > not have a high school education does not have the credentials to be > believable as an environmental scientist. This is not a comment about > how smart he might be, it's a condemnation of his opinions as being > credible in this field of knowledge. > >> I work in a field where I come into contact with a lot of "educated" >> people. While most of them are smart, there a also quite a few who >> aren't, no matter what the piece of paper hanging on the wall >> proclaims. > > Never said otherwise. Attacking education by assuming that it is > equivalent to intelligence is a gross error. > >> I also have a lot to do with people who'd be considered "uneducated", >> boilermakers, machinists, plant operators etc. they are some of the >> smartest, most practical people I know. Of course some are as thick as >> 2 bricks. > > I was taught many things by these same people. Mechanics, > photography, woodworking, shooting, etc. In fact, I visited three of > these old mentors on my trip around the country recently, as we have > remained fast friends through the past 35 years of my life and I > value their thoughts very highly, wanted to see them as they are no > longer in the best of health (they're in their 80s-90s now). > >> You sir seem to have no problem lording his education over others. >> >> By saying what you've said below, you've confirmed my point about >> intellectual superiority. To this thick headed half wit, that makes >> you a snob. >> >> David (I don't have a university education, I must be stupid) Savage > > I don't "lord" anything. I will, however, point out that opinion is > not information whenever I see nonsense being paraded as such. Any > person, no matter how well read, "smart", self-educated or whatever, > or what a delightful person they might be, is not credible to speak > of their opinion as factually based when they can't even take the 20 > seconds necessary to confirm a basic fact of geography, to point out > just one example of why I felt it necessary to make the comment. > > I didn't know for sure how thick the ice on Antarctica was or assume > that my dim recollection was correct, so I looked it up. It doesn't > require an education to do that, but it's what someone who is > educated ... that is, trained in and used to researching/verifying > facts (note that this says nothing about university or degrees) ... > does as a matter of course before spouting off and assuming that what > they think they know is fact. > > And yes, I am "touchy" about listening to stupid comments and stupid > opinions which are misinformation. Touchy isn't the correct word, > however: exasperated and frustrated are closer to the mark. Irritated > and impatient when people accept this kind of bumpkin logic as truth. > > Godfrey > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
