In case you haven´t noticed there are two strong symbols on this  
picture.  The fence and the flag, and as the light suggests that we  
are the outside it is easy to read that the US is closed.  It does  
not want the outside world to come in .-)

DagT

Den 9. jan. 2007 kl. 01.49 skrev Tim Øsleby:

> In a way you are right about the sensitivity issue part. I assume  
> this is
> sensitive stuff. The flag is obviously an important symbol, and US  
> are like
> us, at war.
>
> But I assure you all. I'm just curious. It a similar curiosity as I  
> have
> towards let us say, Catholic symbols. Symbols interest me. Symbols  
> say a lot
> about a culture, about the mindset.
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> K.Takeshita
> Sent: 9. januar 2007 01:04
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> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
>
> On 1/08/07 6:23 PM, "Tim Øsleby", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> What is different is that we don't paint it at fences. We have  
>> flagpoles
> for
>> the flag. For us painting it at a fence would be very close to
> dishonouring
>> the flag, making it kitsch.
>>
>> So. Basically I believe what I was trying to explore is these  
>> cultural
>> differences.
>> Reading the post above has told me a lot. But I still don't quite  
>> get it.
>
> I think I understand what you are trying to say but you cannot  
> quite say
> that in a direct way due to a sensitivity issue, can't you?.
> I once worked in the U.S. and have a lot of friends there.  So, I  
> respect a
> lot of things good about America.
> Having said that, I think those flag paintings are almost uniquely  
> American
> phenomena.  Americans are very patriotic for various reasons (good  
> and bad
> :-), but painting flags everywhere?
>
> One thing is that they are at war now.  But so is Canada, not in  
> Iraq but in
> Afghanistan in a fair size contingency and taking casualties.  But  
> we do not
> see Canadian flags everywhere, not in a way to prop up the patriotism.
> In order to truly understand this phenomena, I believe you have to  
> tour what
> is called "red states" that voted for George Bush in 2006.  You  
> probably see
> a lot more of these there particularly in rural areas, while not so  
> much in
> "blue states" i.e., North Eastern states etc, particularly in urban  
> area.  I
> am of course generalizing it but "Stars and Stripes" to Americans  
> seem to
> have special meaning.
> Japan for example once was very militaristic with strong military  
> power and
> nationalism, and flags were everywhere, but not painted on fence  
> etc.  It
> was a no-no, as you say.
>
> I am of course not an American and cannot speak for them, but things
> sometimes look clearer from spectators' viewpoint. You have to just  
> take it
> as a cultural matter in certain segment of American society.  They are
> generally great people.
> Go figure :-).
> I talked too much about politically incorrect thing.
>
> Ken
>
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