Responses (for the last time) are interspersed below ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
> Ken, I see what you're saying. Or at least I hope I do. However the > phrase "I don't hate foreigners, but I detest their efforts to bring > their country with them.", I should have elaborated & stated "I detest their efforts to bring their country (& customs) with them & enforce them on the rest of us." > which I guess you remember, evidently can be > understood in more than one way. I am very much willing to accept that > the way I understood it was wrong. > > More below. > >> Enjoy your & celebrate your heritage & cultural values, but I don't want >> (not specifically you Boris) you to impose your cultural values on me. > > I won't. Why would I want to impose on you anything except the laws of > your own country should I find that you break them? Perhaps if you lived in the U.S. of A you'd feel different if you experienced things here. > > But then again, if you come to visit my house expect to see things done > my way which of course is *not* going to be designed to offend you in > any possible way. It's your house & you should be able to do what you want - within reason. If I find something there offensive I can either keep my mouth shut, tell you about it or leave. > >>> I do apologize profoundly, but I am both Jewish and Russian, and neither >>> of which I am going to be willing to abandon in any foreseeable future. >> >> If you thought that I implied that you're wrong. > > Good, then you and I are definitely on the same side of the dispute here. I think if this was a face to face conversation we would have already moved on to other things - in other word we both would have seen the other side's view before now. > >>> I should also say that I am very surprised to see how much mutual >>> intolerance there is among the members of this very friendly community >>> should it touch the national symbols and citizenship. >> >> Is a discussion of viewpoints really intolerance? Have I abused someone >> on >> this list? > > I have had a private off-list conversation with another list member who > also participated in this thread. He seems to agree with my point of > view. Again, it definitely could be that you, Ken, did not express > intolerance, but generally I stand by what I am saying. > >>> Folks, the world is diverse. It is so for the reason. So let us not try >>> to force the same suit on everyone. >> >> Do you really think I was trying to do that. > > America is a "melting pot" or whatever is the name. So everyone who > comes in *is supposed* to melt and transform to something different. I > find it rather poor approach. Whether you find it a poor appproach or not, that is the way it was in the U. S. of A. > > Apart from differences in language it seems that you and I have great > many things in common though. Which is a good thing, I say. Same here. > > Cheers! And of course I'd be glad to shake your hand in person or > otherwise on the list ;-). I hope I get the opportunity! > > Boris Now we both should go and take some images. Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net