If you have to have a needle, the KX is the closest to an MX except for size. The K1000 is like a stripped KX, you would not want that unless you couldnt afford or find a clean KX as the KX has everything the K1000 has and much more goodies like shutter speeds and apertures in finder, mirrorlock, and DOF preview. KX is essentially the same size as a spotty or K1000, which is larger than a MX though. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens suggestions Hey, Nick. The MX has 5 LEDs on the right side of the viewfinder. I, too, prefer a needle, but the LEDs work very well for low light and when you might have a dark filter on the lens. The LEDs suck butt in bright sun. In addition to the MX I also have a K1000. It's a bit bigger than the MX, but with the meter needle I think it compliments the MX nicely. I also have an M85/2. Not a bad little lens at all. I posted this photo well over a year ago to a mixed response. It's the only one I have online right now that I can definitely say was taken with the M85/2. Hand held, mid-afternoon, probably HP5+, but I'd have to dig out the negs to be sure. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=332 HTH. On 3/20/07, Nick Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should've specified that these will be going on film bodies with > absolutely no thought whatsoever to using them on a digital. > > I need to ask about bodies sometime soon too. I'd really like to get > an MX, but I don't know if I can live with only having the three LEDs > for an exposure meter. Is there something the size of an MX (that is > fully mechanical) that has a needle in the viewfinder meter? > > On 3/20/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My answers (others may vary) > > > > 1.) The m28 f2.0 doesn't have a sterling reputation, in fact most of > > the older Pentax 28mm lenses don't have such good reps, except for > > the [K] 28mm f3.5. (I wouldn't know at that focal length I can put > > up with f2.8, and besides I have the "rare" [K] 30mm. Yea, yea, > > yea, too much information). > > > > 2.) For over all quality the A 85mm f1.4 is supposed to be the best. > > (I couldn't justify the price myself). The M 85mm f2.0 is small, > > about the same size as a 50mm normal, relatively fast, and > > moderately sharp, (very sharp after f5.6), and not nearly as > > expensive used as any other Pentax 85). It gives a nice ~135mm AOV, > > (well 127mm actually), on an APS digital and makes pleasing > > portraits on 35mm film. > > > > 3.) The 85 f1.4 became available often enough, every few weeks on > > e-bay, when I was paying attention. Just be prepared to trade your > > first born for one. > > > > You don't mention which body, or if it's film or digital you'll be > > using, just remember that the M lenses don't communicate with the > > body and you'll need to use stop down metering on any Pentax > > digital, and it won't work at all on a *ist Film camera, (I assume > > that with these lenses in mind you're not going to be using one of > > the real bottom feeding cameras). > > > > Nick Wright wrote: > > > So I'm starting to think a little more seriously about putting > > > together the Pentax kit. I'm all about the available light so I'm > > > looking at large aperture primes and would like to ask y'all's > > > opinions about them. > > > > > > Specifically I'm looking at the M28mm f/2, M50mm f/1.4, and either > > > the A85mm f/1.4 or the 85mm f/2. Pros, cons? > > > > > > And in regards to the 85/1.4, how often do those come available > > > for sale? > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw > > uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > -- > ~Nick Wright > http://blog.phojonick.com/ > http://www.phojonick.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net