He can't be a total wanker, he has a son.  Unless the conception was 
done through a straw...
(What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either).

Bob W wrote:
> Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of
> credibility does someone have if they can write "Neither Canon nor
> Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers".
>
> It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in
> the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last
> 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker.
>
> To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious
> photographers. 
>
> If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth.
>
> --
>  Bob
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of Peter Lacus
>> Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
>>
>>     
>>> http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#
>>>
>>> I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't
>>>       
> understand
>   
>>> that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me.
>>>       
>> I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all 
>> crap in there 
>> anyway.
>>
>> BTW have you noticed:
>> "Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of 
>> the driving 
>> forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know 
>> what light 
>> meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters.
>>
>> It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like 
>> this. Neither 
>> Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious 
>> photographers, like 
>> Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format
>>     
> SLR 
>   
>> system which still creates images far better technically than 
>> anything 
>> from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 
>> 35mm cameras 
>> or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large 
>> format gear for 
>> serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.)
>>
>> Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon."
>>
>> these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell 
>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter
>>
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