There does seem to be a high level of resentment/bitterness in some responses. I suppose the fear of point non-acceptance and worthy counters raise anxiety to an uncomfortable level in the less secure.
Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I just don't expect perfection from any review site or reviewer > I > guess. Sure there are flaws in testing methodologies. Yes there are > > opinions given. It's still far better than walking in to Ritz, Wolf, > > substitute store name here, Camera and talking to the salesperson. > > Frankly, I'd venture to say that if dpreview.com gave Pentax > undiluted > adulation and praise, instead of 85% adulation and praise along with > some > negative aspects to consider, that few here would have a negative > thing to > say about dpreview. > > Tom C. > > >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >Subject: Re: Amazon buys dpreview.com > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:57:36 -0700 > > > >No one forces me to read DPReview. Or Imaging-Resource, or Steve's > >Digicams, or Photo-I, or PhotoZone, or any of the other dozen or two > >product review sites I frequent. > > > >That's perfectly true and completely irrelevant. > > > >However, the analyses and opinions voiced on DPReview.com have an > >untoward and, to my view, often negative influence on the readers > who > >believe they are factual rather than opinion. They are neither level > >or objective, and the testing methodologies/supporting intent is > >questionable and contradictory. For that reason, I consider them > >misinformation. > > > >Even worse, several other review test sites with less resources read > >the DPReview.com review and 'inherit' some of the exact same > opinion. > >I've seen Phil Askey's opinions relayed almost verbatim on several > >other sites. That's bad, it reinforces an undeserved impression that > >what is being opined is fact. > > > >I don't need a lot of reviewers' opinion. I need good, objective > data > >and informative explanatory information regards a camera/lens/ > >whatever and its operation. I can form my own opinions from that, > and > >from going to a dealer and evaluating the item in question first > >hand. I read the specs and test data from the review sites as they > >are a useful resource for that, and ignore the BS. > > > >G > > > > > >On May 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > Godfrey, > > > > > > No one forces you in particular to read dpreview. Is that not > true? > > > > > > I looked at www.photozone.de . Thanks. The reviews look good. > It > > > seems > > > they reach much the same conclusions (at least with regard to the > > > K10D) that > > > are listed on dpreview.com. There are FAR fewer reviews of > DLSR's on > > > photozone. > > > > > > I think dpreview is a pretty useful resource for most people that > > > have an > > > interest in pre-shopping before they purchase or walk into a > retail > > > store. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > >> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > > >> Subject: Re: Amazon buys dpreview.com > > >> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:49:08 -0700 > > >> > > >> I don't care one whit about "most people". That's the equivalent > of > > >> the Fox InfoTainment Service "Some People Say..." bullshit: that > is, > > >> it says "we know best, won't quote sources or tell you how we > know, > > >> but will tell you what the truth is and you should believe it". > Utter > > >> nonsense. > > >> > > >> I'm talking to what I would hope are informed photographers on > this > > >> list, not to "most people". Perhaps I'm wrong about that. > > >> > > >> I go to review sites to obtain the specifications and any data > > >> acquired by testing about the cameas, as well as see detailed > > >> photographs of the item in question. I want to know the testing > > >> methodologies in detail. I don't bother reading 'informed > opinions > > >> translating for laymen', or walking through 26 stupid screen > shots of > > >> menus that are all well detailed in the downloadable instruction > > >> manual, it's a waste of my time. > > >> > > >> As both test data and informed opinion goes, Klaus at > > >> www.photozone.de has done an excellent job. > > >> > > >> G > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On May 15, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Tom C wrote: > > >> > > >>> Then point me to where there is anything better. The same can > be > > >>> said for > > >>> virtually any news or information source. Most people, being > > >>> woefully > > >>> uninformed to begin, with require a laymen's interpretation of > the > > >>> data > > >>> which I think the site does a pretty good job of. > > >>> > > >>> Tom C. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > > >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > > >>>> Subject: Re: Amazon buys dpreview.com > > >>>> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:28:43 -0700 > > >>>> > > >>>> DPReview.com's review data is pretty good on specifications > and > > >>>> features but his tests and judgments are of questionable > > >>>> credibility. > > >>>> > > >>>> Many people take what's said in the tests as being hard fact, > which > > >>>> is misinformed. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thus it is a source of misinformation. > > >>>> > > >>>> G > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On May 14, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Tom C wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> That's my point. I find dpreview to be among the best sites > out > > >>>>> there for > > >>>>> camera reviews and comparing features. At times some may > disagree > > >>>>> with the > > >>>>> conclusions that are reached, but in terms of kinds of tests, > > >>>>> quality of > > >>>>> tests, it's far more exhaustive than any of us are with our > own > > >>>>> cameras. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hence my disagreement about it being a source of > misinformation. > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > ____________________________________________________________________________________Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! 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