Some NEWS first:
I'm now prepering my first "commersial" displaying at a local cafe. It is 
noting big, just a wall to display at. And most of the regular visitors 
arent excactly the type to pay money for photography. So I don't expect 
much. Never the less, it is kind of exiting :-)

The birds in Heavy Weather series means something for me, despite the mixed 
reviews. The idea is to display then next to some slick looking "Bird in 
Sunset" etc.pictures, to make a contrast.
It might be a bad idea, but I think it's the right thing to do, for me.

And now, the PHOTO:
You may remember this 
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
and Godfreys response (at the bottom of this post). Those of you who are 
less senile than me, may also remember that I responded claiming Photoshop 
phobia, and asked for more concrete suggstions on how to make the separation 
better. He responded by adwising me to get rid of my Photoshop phobia by 
picking up some books.
I'm doing that now, reading.
And it seem to help. In fact it is rather fun. Now I'm actually able to open 
Elements without a major sweating attack ;-)
So thank you very much Godfrey for kicking me in my lower back region.

Now I'm looking at the photo, the one that triggered the "read some books" 
suggestion. I'm looking for ways to make the separation between the bird and 
the surroundings better. Haven't come up with a solution yet.
So now I'm asking more. (That's the downside of doing people favours, they 
tend to come back for more (-; )
Could you please give me some hints on what techniques to use, to acomplish 
the goal, a better separation?
I'm not asking for tutoring or detailed explonations. Just some simple 
hints, on what to go for, and what tools.

I could make the crop a wider, and move the "offending" bird down a tiny 
bit. That would probably help. But I think it needs a bit more. Something 
adding some punch to the bird and the bird alone. I don't think encreasing 
saturation of the bird more is the right direction. Encreased saturation 
will alter the mood of the shot.

But I'm open to most suggestions.
Unless they means to go back to reshoot. Havent got time for that. It ain't 
snowing all year here ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2


I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a
bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings.
You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image
processing work.

Godfrey

On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for
> four of
> five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie.
> The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's
> projects.
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
> I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient.
>
> Thumb up, or thumb down folks?
> When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea.


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