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i'm thinking of getting some really cheap cameras for my twin nephews (12
years old, combative, obnoxious-they really remind me of myself at that
tender age)

You may try Fuji cameras of the same era. My brother had one and pawned the
50 mm standard to my father so he could have the inferior Takumar in his. I
still remind him of it! The lenses sucked.

Bob
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