And assuming you are talking about 35mm film, *probably* a dedicated film scanner as opposed to a multi-purpose flatbed.
Tom C. >From: Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:01:46 -0400 > >Hmm...that was my concern: decent neg/slide scans. I guess it is >better to go with separate units, a printer and dedicated scanner. > >Thanks, >Glen > >On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > > > Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same > > print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only > > suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to > > get decent neg/slide scans out of them. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > Glen Tortorella wrote: > >> Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The > >> Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no > >> expert. > >> > >> Glen > >> > >> On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> > >>> For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The > >>> higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features > >>> (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 > >>> myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson > >>> Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro > >>> models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much > >>> ink). > >>> > >>> For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of > >>> Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual > >>> III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work > >>> on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) > >>> > >>> -Adam > >>> > >>> > >>> Glen Tortorella wrote: > >>>> Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point > >>>> something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an > >>>> older > >>>> one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive > >>>> cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and > >>>> go the > >>>> scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What > >>>> would > >>>> about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a > >>>> good > >>>> deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older > >>>> inkjets > >>>> I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian > >>>> pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. > >>>> > >>>> Glen > >>>> > >>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. > >>>>> All my > >>>>> film > >>>>> work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed > >>>>> with an > >>>>> inkjet. It works pretty well for me. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Adam > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: > >>>>>> Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I > >>>>>> tend > >>>>>> to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the > >>>>>> surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, > >>>>>> buy a > >>>>>> rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as > >>>>>> many > >>>>>> prints as I wish, but then there are those "hidden" costs...ink, > >>>>>> paper, software, and who knows what else... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR > >>>>>> world. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Glen > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: > >>>>>>>> While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I > >>>>>>>> find > >>>>>>>> this article interesting. The idea of getting a good "budget" > >>>>>>>> DSLR > >>>>>>>> has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to > >>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>> prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how > >>>>>>>> does > >>>>>>>> one > >>>>>>>> turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into > >>>>>>>> prints? > >>>>>>>> Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a > >>>>>>>> scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo > >>>>>>>> lab > >>>>>>>> supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? > >>>>>>> You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, > >>>>>>> which I > >>>>>>> suspect isn't quite true. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. > >>>>>>> Scanners > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> used to capture film and print images into digital images. A > >>>>>>> digital > >>>>>>> camera produces digital images. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print > >>>>>>> anything > >>>>>>> else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an > >>>>>>> online print service having moved the image files from camera to > >>>>>>> computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>> its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple > >>>>>>> system by default) will start up and download all the > >>>>>>> photographs so > >>>>>>> you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected > >>>>>>> printer > >>>>>>> via > >>>>>>> a print service on the internet. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the > >>>>>>>> D40 or > >>>>>>>> D50, I gather? > >>>>>>> A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of > >>>>>>> questions > >>>>>>> you > >>>>>>> are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense > >>>>>>> to buy > >>>>>>> a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax > >>>>>>> lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy > >>>>>>> it ... > >>>>>>> they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Godfrey > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>> -- > >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > >>>>> and follow the directions. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > >>> and follow the directions. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.