And assuming you are talking about 35mm film, *probably* a dedicated film 
scanner as opposed to a multi-purpose flatbed.

Tom C.

>From: Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
>Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:01:46 -0400
>
>Hmm...that was my concern: decent neg/slide scans.  I guess it is
>better to go with separate units, a printer and dedicated scanner.
>
>Thanks,
>Glen
>
>On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
> > Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same
> > print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only
> > suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to
> > get decent neg/slide scans out of them.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> > Glen Tortorella wrote:
> >> Thank you, Adam.  How do you feel about the all-in-one printers?  The
> >> Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no
> >> expert.
> >>
> >> Glen
> >>
> >> On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
> >>
> >>> For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The
> >>> higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features
> >>> (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320
> >>> myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson
> >>> Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro
> >>> models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much
> >>> ink).
> >>>
> >>> For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of
> >>> Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual
> >>> III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work
> >>> on 10.4, it will work on 10.3)
> >>>
> >>> -Adam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
> >>>> Thank you, Adam.  I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point
> >>>> something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an
> >>>> older
> >>>> one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive
> >>>> cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart).  Thus, if I take your advice and
> >>>> go the
> >>>> scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer.  What
> >>>> would
> >>>> about $200 or so (for each) buy?  I gather the new inkjets are a
> >>>> good
> >>>> deal better than those made five or ten years ago?  The older
> >>>> inkjets
> >>>> I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian
> >>>> pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Glen
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff.
> >>>>> All my
> >>>>> film
> >>>>> work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed
> >>>>> with an
> >>>>> inkjet. It works pretty well for me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Adam
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
> >>>>>> Good commentary, Godfrey.  Have you read Rebekah's remarks?  I
> >>>>>> tend
> >>>>>> to think that this is just another financial black hole.  On the
> >>>>>> surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR,
> >>>>>> buy a
> >>>>>> rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as
> >>>>>> many
> >>>>>> prints as I wish, but then there are those "hidden" costs...ink,
> >>>>>> paper, software, and who knows what else...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR
> >>>>>> world.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Glen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
> >>>>>>>> While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I
> >>>>>>>> find
> >>>>>>>> this article interesting.  The idea of getting a good "budget"
> >>>>>>>> DSLR
> >>>>>>>> has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one.  I tend to
> >>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> prints.  Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how
> >>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>> turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into
> >>>>>>>> prints?
> >>>>>>>> Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a
> >>>>>>>> scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo
> >>>>>>>> lab
> >>>>>>>> supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner?
> >>>>>>> You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all,
> >>>>>>> which I
> >>>>>>> suspect isn't quite true.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera.
> >>>>>>> Scanners
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> used to capture film and print images into digital images. A
> >>>>>>> digital
> >>>>>>> camera produces digital images.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print
> >>>>>>> anything
> >>>>>>> else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an
> >>>>>>> online print service having moved the image files from camera to
> >>>>>>> computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple
> >>>>>>> system by default) will start up and download all the
> >>>>>>> photographs so
> >>>>>>> you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected
> >>>>>>> printer
> >>>>>>> via
> >>>>>>> a print service on the internet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the
> >>>>>>>> D40 or
> >>>>>>>> D50, I gather?
> >>>>>>> A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of
> >>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>> are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense
> >>>>>>> to buy
> >>>>>>> a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax
> >>>>>>> lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy
> >>>>>>> it ...
> >>>>>>> they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Godfrey
> >>>>>>>
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