The Kings have always sacrificed their pawns, and generally their pawns go 
willingingly because they have been convinced it is the noble thing to do.

Tom C.


>From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times
>Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:08:03 -0500
>
>Public television is running a new World War II series produced by Ken
>Burns (who produced the award winning US Civil War monograph).  It has
>been 10 hours of TV this week, tracing people in 4 US cities and their
>experiences with the war - Waterbury, Conneticut - Sacramento,
>California - a small town in rural Minnesota - another town in
>Lousiana or Alabama.  The picture of life in those times makes our
>times look cynical and self absorbed.
>
>It is propaganda to use the flag raising picture to try and make
>people buy War Bonds and dig deeper to support the cause.
>It is not propaganda to try and make those sacrificing at home see
>some glimmer of hope and share in a national pride for their
>sacrifices.
>Propaganda to me is about manipulating the national sentiment to
>support bad causes.  I know others will differ with me on this.
>
>Regards,  Bob S.
>
>On 9/28/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Sullivan"
> > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times
> >
> >
> > > Bill and Tom,
> > >
> > > What is a propaganda photo?
> > > The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by design.
> > > It was a premature 'celebration' of victory, 2 days into a grim 30 day
> > > battle.
> > > The flag was raised to inspire those fighting on the island below.
> > >
> > > The photo took on a propaganda aura based on how the media handled it,
> > > the events themselves (a difficult battle), and the qualities of the
> > > photo itself.  The US government used the photo as the centerpiece of
> > > a massive War Bond drive - the kind of promotional campaign that would
> > > make Nike look like a lightweight in comparison today.  (Imagine
> > > financing Vietnam from 'donations' to War Bonds instead of deficit
> > > spending!)
> > >
> > > Propaganda is a loaded word.
> >
> > Technically, it is information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread 
>widely
> > to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc, 
>nothing
> > more, nothing less.
> >
> > I'm guessing that had the Vietnam war more going for it than pocket pool
> > ideology, it would have been more popular, I am sure.
> >
> > William Robb
> >
> >
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